Under 18 zone, a solution?

[Slut-laura]

At first thought this sounds like a great idea but if you really think about it you are putting two sites inside of one. It will also be a lot of work to set up and then manage. Not only that but every year the number of people able to access it will decrease and then it will have to be completely taken down since no one under 18 can join. Really the best solution for the time being is find a different site to be a part of and than come back here once your 18 or just stay here and use what you can till you reach that magic number.

[XFathom]

Originally Posted by Slut-laura

At first thought this sounds like a great idea but if you really think about it you are putting two sites inside of one. It will also be a lot of work to set up and then manage. Not only that but every year the number of people able to access it will decrease and then it will have to be completely taken down since no one under 18 can join. Really the best solution for the time being is find a different site to be a part of and than come back here once your 18 or just stay here and use what you can till you reach that magic number.

I assume the joining restrictions would be taken down if they went along with this idea. You are right that it would be a lot of work to set up and manage though

[AdventureBoy57]

I'm quite skeptical.

[trust-no-1]

Actually, it's not a lot of work t ipmplement. I have run a forum for a gaming clan before, and adding forums and then making a usergroud for just the unders would only take about an hour, certainly less time then setting up a twitter box.
Adventure boy, care to share why?

[JD_Slaveformistress]

If it was that easy they wouldn't have shut the last attempt at it down.

[BettyBoop]

Originally Posted by trust-no-1

Actually, it's not a lot of work t ipmplement. I have run a forum for a gaming clan before, and adding forums and then making a usergroud for just the unders would only take about an hour, certainly less time then setting up a twitter box.

Making a new section isn't the problem, the problems have been highlighted in many comments above.
But I won't be commenting on this again, no offence but it's not a good idea for this website.

[nellybell]

Basically all of the issues have been stated above.

While the spilt of the tord section was a great idea, there were a bunch of ways it went wrong and the "U-18 only" would likely follow suit. There was a big issue with over 18 give sexual dares in the non sexual section but they weren't alone. Not only were there underages give sexual dares as well but there were underages asking almost exclusively for sexual dares. There is pleanty of guilt all around.

It would be very likely that the same thing would repeat with only underages who figure that it would be fine to just give sexual things out because not it is just the kids. That wouldn't pan out well. Now while the idea of a more heavily moded underage section would be great, it is actually a ton of work. for both the "reporters" and the mods.

So, it really is a great idea but unfrotunetly is likely to fail like past attempts. Like Docotor said, until you're of age you're just going to have to improvise. There is a TorD chatroom, pms, and vms. Have at it until then.

[lilysmaster]

The idea to make a new section is not a good idea. The only plausible idea I can think of is to make another site for u18 content only. Not u18s only but the content "Pg13." Now Kinktalk does exist some making a 3rd site would not be plausible. So why not move Adult stories, TorD and Ads over to Kinktalk and leave getDare as a PG13 site, or vise versa, merge Kinktalk into getDare, and leaving get rid of Kinktalking making a new site for u18s. Alas, any of these options take time and effort, something with depp having a fulltime job, he doesn't have. Although it is possible to migrate posts and users to a new site with little on their end. It takes time, a lot of time.

[MasterPain]

because kinktalk is not dares, sure the S/M section should be fully moved over there, its been just an intergrated part of this site that moving it would be a hassle. kinktalk is NOT for dares but it is a fetish comunity.

and then that doesent stop people from posting the sexual dares on getdare, from report to action there could be up to a few day wait depending on the lives and workloads of the mods and volenteers to come delete the offending post.

and if getdare caters to the PG-13 croud for underagers and some troll posts a sexual dare and the sponcers and people who host the site catch it before the gatdare mods do. insta-site shutdown.

i dont know much of the inner workings of it but im assuming that it would be the case.

this is the lesser of 2 evils.

[lilysmaster]

No matter the approach it is going to be difficult. Either way modding would have to be more strict, and if the load on mods are too high then maybe more are needed.

[MasterPain]

picking a mod is not that simple... there isnt a long list of people willing to vollenteer to do a unpaid job with long hours and little respect. throwing more mods at the problem isnt the solution, they are handing it well. kinktalk isnt for tasks and dares, its for a fetish comunity, so the ad's and s/m section should be moved there... BUT the population wouldent move, there is onl;y 6 members online on kinktalk, sure more would transfer over or leave getdare if the s/m section will close, but there will be a backlash...


the mods are doing a very excelent job at handling the change currenty... and unfortunatly this is the desision and probaly the one ONLY option for under 18's who are online currently can stay instead of being exhiled like what was first proposed, keeping members toghere.

if the U18's want dares they can take it off of the public forums to PM's, IM's and other private communition wich is now not the responcibility of the mods and site but the indeviduals

[lilysmaster]

Not saying mods are simple, finding someone trust able to do the job is difficult. I just personally think the burden of people moving would be lessened by account migration and/or thread migration and such, but that takes time, a lot of time. Not matter what is done, it is going to be difficult. The current solution is the best but it requires mod power to keep it up. Unless there are separate sections one for 18+ and U18 where your profile age determines what you can access. Now this will warrant false accounts and abuse. Also, it brings up the separation issue once again. Change is always unaccepted...

[Manbearpig]

I know that this is not the ideal solution (any of this, but for the purposes of this post the under 18 section). But it had to be made. The first under 18 per say truth or dare section for lack of a better term, was a disaster, for reasons mentioned above. Sure people reported, but sometimes we would get a page of reports in a short amount of time. And while we got to them (some longer than others) it obviously showed a flaw in what we were doing. Could this section, work in theory? I suppose. But do I think so? No

[Aivey]

To be very very honest, I think we're all making too much of a big deal about this 18+ thing. True an under 18 section seems like a good idea as there are many people here who are under 18, but put in the context of getDare, making an under 18 zone is pretty pointless, whether or not it will work.

You mention that "under 18s are banned from pretty much over 1/2 the site and the only places we can post are places where adults are". Well, places where under 18s can't post, are probably places that are innappropriate and places that getDare doesn't want us to participate in, so that's not really an issue. As for the "only places we can post are places where adults are" well, hasn't it always been that way..?

Seeing that 13 was the minimum age requirement, it'll only be about 5 years max for each member to fully participate in getDare. If you think about it, 13/14 year olds aren't even on getDare for sexual dares. If they were, they would've made an 18+ account already. So we can safely assume most under 18's in getDare are about 15/16/17. Three years is quite little, and an under 18 section ONLY for minors will quickly diminish into nothing as the under 18's get older. Therefore, within 3 years, it'll just be gone, and similar to the Elite S/M section that used to exist, I don't really think it would make much difference to getDare as a whole.

Finally, GetDare is an 18+ site. Putting up a section just for us minors would be like putting a kiddie pen in a nightclub/bar/casino. It's telling the under 18s who don't have accounts already "We're welcoming under 18's, we even have a section just for them". Doesn't make much sense seeing that getDare is an 18+ site...

[BettyBoop]

I'm just going to lock this now because it's getting way out of hand and a tad dramatic.

We've made as much change as we can to keep U18s on the site but a large bunch of them haven't been helping with the amount of inappropriate threads they've made and the amount of over18s daring then to do things they shouldn't etc. We're trying not to get the site shut down from any more complaints about all the inappropriate threads that U18s have been making so yes, they've been shut out of some sections.

That's pretty much it.