How should I deal with a slave who enjoys punishment?

flyingsparks · 04-24-2008, 06:41 AM

I have an 18 y.o. male slave who I am actively training. He does stuff on webcam for me, and I also set him little tasks to perform each day at college, which he reports on for me every evening.
The problem I have is that this slave actually loves to be publicly humiliated, as the slave calls it. I would prefer to say embarrassment rather than humiliation. He likes me to insult him, and is always pointing out his own failings, and finding reasons for me to punish him.
I guess others have faced similar situations, and so I'm asking for advice from anyone more experienced than myself.

1. Should I consent to punish my slave, if he is enjoying it so much won't that just encourage him to disobey further?

2. If I do punish him then what type of punishment would be appropriate? Anything involving pain he seems to enjoy, so that's not really punishment. Public embarrassment would seem a likely option, but he won't do anything that affects his family (that's fair enough) and he already does things at college, so I'm not sure turning up the heat on him there will be very effective.
Any advice welcome.

the-guru · 04-24-2008, 08:07 AM

How about as punishment just making him have to knee or sit in place for a set period of time with nothing to do just think, punish him with boredom

Oreo_here · 04-24-2008, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by the-guru

How about as punishment just making him have to knee or sit in place for a set period of time with nothing to do just think, punish him with boredom

Aye, I was thinking along the lines of that. If he craves negative attention, don't give him any. Don't give him attention,period. Let him know that he has to earn your attention,negative or otherwise.

Sum · 04-24-2008, 12:05 PM

I agree with the above.

Also another option would be to make him write you an email with a set word count that he must reach on why he misbhaives, why he shouldn't misbheaive, or whatever subject you set.

Along these lines you could also have him write say 500 lines, say something like "punishment and play are different things"

I often think the best punishments are ones that are very very boring.

ni.lad · 04-24-2008, 12:34 PM

Hmmmm, very nice ideas indeed. Would not like to be on the receiving end lol.

Bandit|Queen · 04-24-2008, 01:18 PM

Have a look at what a Smart Assed Masochist is, SAM for short. I'm not saying he is one but the artical is a good read anyway and might give you some clues as to why hes doing what he is.

I think time out like others have said is a good idea maybe having a spacific "naughty corner" and make him sit in it with you watching on cam. Child specialists recomend a minute for every year of the childs age, so in his case 18 mins. Also make him put his hands behind his head without locking his fingers for the whole time, everytime his arms droop add time. Watch him do it on cam don't talk to him the whole time apart from adding time and don't tell him how long he has left.

Thats a bit of a mind f**k and if he gets a kick out of you watching him on cam turn yours on too if you have one but walk away he won't know if your watching or not. God thats all so evil but I know it would deffinatly work on me and sometimes a short sharp shock like that is enough to correct them and you might not have to do it again

Let me know if you think this will work or not and or if it does I'm curious to see how someone else would take it as a punishment.

ni.lad · 04-24-2008, 01:23 PM

lol tempered_sugar thats def one way of sorting him out, love the idea! Has it ever been done on you before?

Bandit|Queen · 04-24-2008, 01:29 PM

Thankies. And no its not been done on me as a punishmnet. I have had to hold much harder positions for half an hour and had time added for shifting etc but that was an endurance thing and seeing how far Master could push my determination. About 10 mins into it its just determination that makes you hold the position because it is agony!

ni.lad · 04-24-2008, 01:31 PM

tempered_sugar respect and rep! Nice One!

SubMissChievous · 04-24-2008, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by flyingsparks

The problem I have is that this slave actually loves to be publicly humiliated, as the slave calls it. I would prefer to say embarrassment rather than humiliation. He likes me to insult him, and is always pointing out his own failings, and finding reasons for me to punish him.

I think the 1st thing you should do is have a conversation with him about this in order to find out why he is doing this. Some slaves are indeed misbehaving on purpose as the thought of being punished turn them on. Or is he just doing this because he thinks that this way he's gonna get more tasks that involves public embarrassment or humiliation? Make sure to get to know the motivation behind his behavior first not only for this current situation but also because this will help both of you as the relationship progresses.

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Originally Posted by flyingsparks

1. Should I consent to punish my slave, if he is enjoying it so much won't that just encourage him to disobey further?

2. If I do punish him then what type of punishment would be appropriate? Anything involving pain he seems to enjoy, so that's not really punishment. Public embarrassment would seem a likely option, but he won't do anything that affects his family (that's fair enough) and he already does things at college, so I'm not sure turning up the heat on him there will be very effective.
Any advice welcome.

If you decide to punish him, I think the best idea is NOT to punish him with those public tasks as he seems to enjoy them & it is possibly the reason why he's trying to get punished, at least from your post it seems like it. I think a real punishment for him would actually be maybe to lower the amount of these tasks that he enjoys for a set period of time(and maybe increasing a bit the amount of tasks he likes less during that same period of time). And of course explain to him why you won't give him as much of those for this period of time to make sure that he understands that a punishment shouldn't be fun.

I like also sum1(2)'s suggestion of making him write on the reasons why he misbehaves as well as why he shouldn't do it. Making him do it after you have talked to him about this situation would also be a good way for to know if he understands what you expect from him as well as what he needs to improve on.

Oreo_here · 04-24-2008, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tempered_sugar

Have a look at what a Smart Assed Masochist is, SAM for short. I'm not saying he is one but the artical is a good read anyway and might give you some clues as to why hes doing what he is.

I think time out like others have said is a good idea maybe having a spacific "naughty corner" and make him sit in it with you watching on cam. Child specialists recomend a minute for every year of the childs age, so in his case 18 mins. Also make him put his hands behind his head without locking his fingers for the whole time, everytime his arms droop add time. Watch him do it on cam don't talk to him the whole time apart from adding time and don't tell him how long he has left.

Thats a bit of a mind f**k and if he gets a kick out of you watching him on cam turn yours on too if you have one but walk away he won't know if your watching or not. God thats all so evil but I know it would deffinatly work on me and sometimes a short sharp shock like that is enough to correct them and you might not have to do it again

Let me know if you think this will work or not and or if it does I'm curious to see how someone else would take it as a punishment.

I just looked up what a 'SAM' was and damn I know a few of those people! One is a friend of mine. Well, yeah. Either that or he has a split personality dissorder!

Some SAMs are masterful manipulators. You will not simply be able to laugh off one of their onslaughts. They avoid tops who are phlegmatic and cool-tempered, and target the ones who are hot-blooded and short-tempered - on purpose. They specifically go for the ones with obvious problems like drug or drink addictions, like a wolf goes for the weakest deer in the herd.

Yup, that is so him. Oh,oh, and this part is dead accurate!

vvvv

You can see people like this trolling for abuse all over the net.

I know another whom does that. Not my friend but has been on yahoo since I started, which was back in 02-03. He yearns for negative attention!

brownie · 04-24-2008, 07:10 PM

leve it to brownie to salve all ur problems!
okay since u didnt list his limits or u did and i was to board to finsh reading the 1 and the 2. this is what ur going to do.

Next time he is annoying as hell, u said he go to colaage.
He has to have sex with his teacher.(a dude) Then he will get arrested for like a cuople of years. That a great punishment. Also he wont be able to get a job. If u threnting him like that hell do eveything u ask.

TensionRoom101 · 04-29-2008, 05:50 AM

You don't have the slave, he does.

Reframing is where it's at. They are not punishments they are treats, and you must stop him from referring to them as punishments. He should be made to understand that he will get his reward of humiliation only when he earns it.

Of course there's a chance you'll lose him if you do, because he could move on to a more easily manipulated servant. It only works for many of them if it is dressed up as punishment, but while he's topping from the bottom it certainly isn't.

Mike

HHHobo · 05-17-2008, 04:41 PM

Remember the od story of the sadist and the masochist:

Masochist: "Hit me, hit me!!!!!'

Sadist: "NO!"

04-24-2008, 06:41 AM	#1
flyingsparks Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 8	How should I deal with a slave who enjoys punishment? I have an 18 y.o. male slave who I am actively training. He does stuff on webcam for me, and I also set him little tasks to perform each day at college, which he reports on for me every evening. The problem I have is that this slave actually loves to be publicly humiliated, as the slave calls it. I would prefer to say embarrassment rather than humiliation. He likes me to insult him, and is always pointing out his own failings, and finding reasons for me to punish him. I guess others have faced similar situations, and so I'm asking for advice from anyone more experienced than myself. 1. Should I consent to punish my slave, if he is enjoying it so much won't that just encourage him to disobey further? 2. If I do punish him then what type of punishment would be appropriate? Anything involving pain he seems to enjoy, so that's not really punishment. Public embarrassment would seem a likely option, but he won't do anything that affects his family (that's fair enough) and he already does things at college, so I'm not sure turning up the heat on him there will be very effective. Any advice welcome.

04-24-2008, 12:05 PM	#4
Sum getDare Devil Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,049 Blog Entries: 9	I agree with the above. Also another option would be to make him write you an email with a set word count that he must reach on why he misbhaives, why he shouldn't misbheaive, or whatever subject you set. Along these lines you could also have him write say 500 lines, say something like "punishment and play are different things" I often think the best punishments are ones that are very very boring. __________________ Through the darkness of futures past The magician longs to see One chants out between two worlds Fire walk with me I'm off to kinktalk. Bye all.

04-24-2008, 12:34 PM	#5
ni.lad Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 36	Hmmmm, very nice ideas indeed. Would not like to be on the receiving end lol. __________________ My Fav Quote Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it

04-24-2008, 01:18 PM	#6
Bandit\|Queen getDare Sweetheart Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 414 Blog Entries: 2	Have a look at what a Smart Assed Masochist is, SAM for short. I'm not saying he is one but the artical is a good read anyway and might give you some clues as to why hes doing what he is. I think time out like others have said is a good idea maybe having a spacific "naughty corner" and make him sit in it with you watching on cam. Child specialists recomend a minute for every year of the childs age, so in his case 18 mins. Also make him put his hands behind his head without locking his fingers for the whole time, everytime his arms droop add time. Watch him do it on cam don't talk to him the whole time apart from adding time and don't tell him how long he has left. Thats a bit of a mind f*k and if he gets a kick out of you watching him on cam turn yours on too if you have one but walk away he won't know if your watching or not. God thats all so evil but I know it would deffinatly work on me and sometimes a short sharp shock like that is enough to correct them and you might not have to do it again Let me know if you think this will work or not and or if it does I'm curious to see how someone else would take it as a punishment. __________________ Have fun all! Love you my smooch! Last edited by Bandit\|Queen; 04-24-2008 at 01:40 PM.*

04-24-2008, 01:23 PM	#7
ni.lad Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 36	lol tempered_sugar thats def one way of sorting him out, love the idea! Has it ever been done on you before? __________________ My Fav Quote Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it

04-24-2008, 08:07 AM	#2
the-guru Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: on anyone's dick Posts: 140	How about as punishment just making him have to knee or sit in place for a set period of time with nothing to do just think, punish him with boredom

04-24-2008, 01:29 PM	#8
Bandit\|Queen getDare Sweetheart Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 414 Blog Entries: 2	Thankies. And no its not been done on me as a punishmnet. I have had to hold much harder positions for half an hour and had time added for shifting etc but that was an endurance thing and seeing how far Master could push my determination. About 10 mins into it its just determination that makes you hold the position because it is agony! __________________ Have fun all! Love you my smooch!

04-24-2008, 01:31 PM	#9
ni.lad Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 36	tempered_sugar respect and rep! Nice One! __________________ My Fav Quote Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it

04-24-2008, 07:10 PM	#12
brownie Account Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 52 Blog Entries: 1	leve it to brownie to salve all ur problems! okay since u didnt list his limits or u did and i was to board to finsh reading the 1 and the 2. this is what ur going to do. Next time he is annoying as hell, u said he go to colaage. He has to have sex with his teacher.(a dude) Then he will get arrested for like a cuople of years. That a great punishment. Also he wont be able to get a job. If u threnting him like that hell do eveything u ask.

04-29-2008, 05:50 AM	#13
TensionRoom101 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 223	You don't have the slave, he does. Reframing is where it's at. They are not punishments they are treats, and you must stop him from referring to them as punishments. He should be made to understand that he will get his reward of humiliation only when he earns it. Of course there's a chance you'll lose him if you do, because he could move on to a more easily manipulated servant. It only works for many of them if it is dressed up as punishment, but while he's topping from the bottom it certainly isn't. Mike __________________ When even the wisest of young people can't see the consequences of their actions, it's time I called it a day.

05-17-2008, 04:41 PM	#14
HHHobo Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 78	Remember the od story of the sadist and the masochist: Masochist: "Hit me, hit me!!!!!' Sadist: "NO!"