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Old 07-18-2009, 09:26 AM   #106
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Just because you prayed for something doesn't mean THAT'S why it happened. Things happen all the time, as coincidences. I could pray to do well on a test, and study for it, and do well. Or I could skip the first step and do well, or I could pray to do well, and study for it, and fail it, etc etc.. Prayer isn't going to swing it either way. Sometimes good things happen when people pray so those people just put faith in that and disregard all the times that nothing happened. I bet if those people went back in time, and replayed that moment without praying, they would get the same outcome :|
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Old 07-18-2009, 09:32 AM   #107
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No one is stopping you for staying a Christian. If you feel the rules are stupid, then you can just convert to no religion, or another religion.
I never said anyone was, stop assuming.
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Old 07-18-2009, 09:33 AM   #108
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Ask yourself, "Do I need a bike?" God will asnwer your prayers, but if it is just for some useless thing (I am not saying bikes are useless), then God won't answer. People often missquote Jesus saying "Ask anything in my name, and it will be given to you"
I prayed for my cousin because she was ill and the next day she was diagnosed with cancer. So go suck out.
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I prayed for my cousin because she was ill and the next day she was diagnosed with cancer. So go suck out.
I believe sometimes God just likes to test us, to see if his believers will turn on Him.
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I believe sometimes God just likes to test us, to see if his believers will turn on Him.
Or is that just a convenient excuse?
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I believe sometimes God just likes to test us, to see if his believers will turn on Him.
He gave my cousin cancer as a test?
Then he has some issues.
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Old 07-18-2009, 09:41 AM   #112
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Or is that just a convenient excuse?
That's exactly what it is. If something goes wrong, even after a prayer, they always say "oo it's a test of your faith"
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Or is that just a convenient excuse?
No. My dad was watching TV one time, and he saw people drinking poision (sianide, if I spelled it right), dancing with very poisions snakes, and the faithful none of that hurt them, but the non-faithful, they got hurt.

And, experts tested to make sure it wasnt fake, and it wasn't.
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No. My dad was watching TV one time, and he saw people drinking poision (sianide, if I spelled it right), dancing with very poisions snakes, and the faithful none of that hurt them, but the non-faithful, they got hurt.

And, experts tested to make sure it wasnt fake, and it wasn't.
Or it was a one-off lucky coincidence.

Or it was a set-up, or it was fake, or the "experts" were wrong, or your dad lied, or it was a fiction TV show.

You might say "unlikely" but there's always a chance.

Oh, and that's just stupid anyway xD
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He gave my cousin cancer as a test?
Then he has some issues.
He didn't give your cousin cancer.
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No. My dad was watching TV one time, and he saw people drinking poision (sianide, if I spelled it right), dancing with very poisions snakes, and the faithful none of that hurt them, but the non-faithful, they got hurt.

And, experts tested to make sure it wasnt fake, and it wasn't.
Again, I'm going to choose not to believe you. If you can show me a link, fine, I'll believe you, but I won't believe these "experts". People make things up all the time for publicity and just to prove their point. Think of it this way, if they really PROVED that, with the poison and everything, why was it not universally broadcasted and accepted as a miracle and as "irrefutable proof that christianity is true"? It's a fake.
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I prayed for my cousin because she was ill and the next day she was diagnosed with cancer. So go suck out.
God does what is best and perhaps your cousin will gain some long term benefit from the cancer, or perhaps she would die sooner from ,say, a car wreck that having cancer keeps her from
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Again, I'm going to choose not to believe you. If you can show me a link, fine, I'll believe you, but I won't believe these "experts". People make things up all the time for publicity and just to prove their point. Think of it this way, if they really PROVED that, with the poison and everything, why was it not universally broadcasted and accepted as a miracle and as "irrefutable proof that christianity is true"? It's a fake.
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God does what is best and perhaps your cousin will gain some long term benefit from the cancer, or perhaps she would die sooner from ,say, a car wreck that having cancer keeps her from
All assumptions though. No proof now, and there never will be proof.

And, again, a simple "get out" phrase. Anyone can say that to anything.
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I'm not anything. I don't care if there's a god or not and I don't care which god it is. I can be a good person without fearing that some god is going to punish me if I'm not.
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