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Old 09-12-2009, 06:22 AM   #16
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The chicken or egg would be useless without some cock rooster + sperm.
Sorry, I disagree, you could still cook and eat the chicken or the egg for a tasty snack.
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Old 09-12-2009, 07:36 AM   #17
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Sorry, I disagree, you could still cook and eat the chicken or the egg for a tasty snack.
Depends if fire or heat came before the chicken or the egg.
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Old 09-12-2009, 07:41 AM   #18
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Depends if fire or heat came before the chicken or the egg.
Fire came before all.
As did heat.

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Old 09-12-2009, 07:51 AM   #19
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The chicken and the egg is an example of a “causality dilemma” similar to a logical fallacy such as:

Can God make a weight too heavy for himself to lift?

Or can an omnipotent being draw a square circle?

Puzzles used by philosophers to explore logical reality.

Can a virtual person eat virtual cookies?

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Old 09-12-2009, 08:13 AM   #20
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Or can an omnipotent being draw a square circle?
A circle ceases being a circle when it's not circular. 'tis the law of all things.
That's like asking if it's possible to create a white black guy...
Ok, wrong example...
If it's possible to have well respected paedophiles...

... ok, fair enough. I'll stop there.
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Old 09-12-2009, 08:21 AM   #21
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A circle ceases being a circle when it's not circular. 'tis the law of all things.
That's like asking if it's possible to create a...
... ok, fair enough. I'll stop there.
I agree with you as an example on its own, but it’s applied to omnipotence, that’s why it’s a logical fallacy.
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Old 09-12-2009, 08:29 AM   #22
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I agree with you as an example on its own, but it’s applied to omnipotence, that’s why it’s a logical fallacy.
Then they would be able to create a square circle.
It's not contradictory to them if the circle isn't circular, only to the laws of the world.

In that very same way, can omnipotent beings divide by 0? I expect they can, as it wouldn't contradict their existence if they did divide by 0.
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Old 09-12-2009, 08:35 AM   #23
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Then they would be able to create a square circle.
It's not contradictory to them if the circle isn't circular, only to the laws of the world.

In that very same way, can omnipotent beings divide by 0? I expect they can, as it wouldn't contradict their existence if they did divide by 0.
ok but, the answer is still sort of based on assumptions.

The weight puzzle would tend to override, at least some of those assumptions.

Can an omnipotent being make a weight too heavy for himself to lift?

Personally, I just think we have to accept that a logical fallacy is a logical fallacy.

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ok but, the answer is still sort of based on assumptions.

The weight puzzle would tend to override, at least some of those assumptions.

Can omnipotent being make a weight too heavy for himself to lift?

Personally, I just think we have to accept that a logical fallacy is a logical fallacy.
Logic is only as logical as the mind that registers it. =3
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Old 09-12-2009, 09:04 AM   #25
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The chicken hatched from an egg which was laid by a creature 99.9% chicken.
The egg wasn't a chicken's egg, it was the egg of a 99.9% chicken.

Thus, the chicken came first.

All circles have a beginning. Draw a circle on a piece of paper. The only thing is, once they begin, they never end.

No, no, no. When chicken eggs hatch, you get a PEEP. The peep grows up into a chicken.

So the original question was incomplete. It should have asked:

Which came first, the chicken, or the egg, or the PEEP?

Google it. You will find out why candy Chicken PEEPS are sold during Easter. Because they represent baby chicken peeps.

Speaking of Easter, there must be some religious viewpoint on this question. Maybe Lokelake could provide some Biblical insight on this question and settle it once and for all.
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Old 09-12-2009, 09:10 AM   #26
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No, no, no. When chicken eggs hatch, you get a

Speaking of Easter, there must be some religious viewpoint on this question. Maybe Lokelake could provide some Biblical insight on this question and settle it once and for all.
I think the egg is a symbol of rebirth, adopted by early Christians.

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Old 09-15-2009, 11:37 PM   #27
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Aren't Hens the ones who lay the "baby chick" eggs? As Chicken's are too young?
So the egg came first, then the chicken.
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Aren't Hens the ones who lay the "baby chick" eggs? As Chicken's are too young?
So the egg came first, then the chicken.
Touche, Betty... Touche...
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What came first the chicken or the egg (refering to chicken egg ofc)
'Darwin evolution theory' will explain alot I 'd say

before his theory i believe the next

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The chicken and the egg is an example of a “causality dilemma” similar to a logical fallacy such as:

Can God make a weight too heavy for himself to lift?

Or can an omnipotent being draw a square circle?

Puzzles used by philosophers to explore logical reality.

Can a virtual person eat virtual cookies?
all spleded Idees of getting the gray mass to work.
i mean can an omnipotent being draw a square circle?
Its a question aswered by maybe you do not know the omnipotent being's diffenition of a square or circle.
Can god make a weight to heavy for him to lift it, looooooool
according to the some beliefs god can t even see in the dark.

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