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Old 07-18-2009, 11:00 AM   #151
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Dying for us so that we can be forgiven, doesn't sound forgiving?
Wow- that was so far away from my point that it can't even see my point- my point is a dot to it!

My actual point was that if, as you seem to be arguing, jesus was so forgiving that he would die in order that we be forgiven- then your other point, that when he comes back he's going to kill all the non-believers and sinners, seems a bit contradictory, since killing us all doesn't seem very forgiving, especially if he died once in order to forgive us already

In fact if jesus does come back, under your argument, he should die again so that we can be forgiven again, because he's so forgiving.
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Old 07-18-2009, 11:01 AM   #153
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You still missed my point I was trying to get at.
I didn't miss your point.
I just think it is bogus.
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Old 07-18-2009, 11:03 AM   #154
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Wow- that was so far away from my point that it can't even see my point- my point is a dot to it!

My actual point was that if, as you seem to be arguing, jesus was so forgiving that he would die in order that we be forgiven- then your other point, that when he comes back he's going to kill all the non-believers and sinners, seems a bit contradictory, since killing us all doesn't seem very forgiving, especially if he died once in order to forgive us already

In fact if jesus does come back, under your argument, he should die again so that we can be forgiven again, because he's so forgiving.
We have time to repent. All who didn't repent (Jesus gave everyone a chance to repent) will not see life.

Once he comes back a second time, thats it. You either got into Heaven or not.
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Once he comes back a second time, thats it. You either got into Heaven or not.
That's fucking mental.
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That's fucking mental.
How? He already gave you a chance to be saved.
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We have time to repent. All who didn't repent (Jesus gave everyone a chance to repent) will not see life.

Once he comes back a second time, thats it. You either got into Heaven or not.
Then, that is just horrid in my book.
Who says heaven is even that great?
And there still is proof of nothing. You just have to wait until you die.
And then BAM!
It's like the book "Elsewhere" that'd be awesome.
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How? He already gave you a chance to be saved.
I just don't believe any of it. It's all BS to me, quite simply.
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And Loke, if you are so bloody "Christian" why the hell are you on getDare?
And I saw you asking for a slave or whatever.
That's got to be against the "rules".
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Where is dragonator to back me up here, lol. At least he is another Chritsian, and he seems like a smart one too.
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Where is dragonator to back me up here, lol. At least he is another Chritsian, and he seems like a smart one too.
You shouldn't need backing up if you know your stuff.
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My knowlege only goes so far with this stuff.
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We have time to repent. All who didn't repent (Jesus gave everyone a chance to repent) will not see life.

Once he comes back a second time, thats it. You either got into Heaven or not.
So he's not all about love then- he's about love on the condition that you believe and act exactly how he tells you to? I see- Jesus is a one man totalitarian state- Stalin could have learnt a lot from him clearly.

The whole thing about repenting is nuts- no matter what i've done, it's fine so long as I ask for forgiveness? So murderers and war criminals go to heaven so long as they say sorry to god, whereas anyone who has been charitable, good and selfless dies just because they happened not to believe in the bible's mumbo jumbo?

I don't see why anyone would want to go to heaven (if it even existed) anyway- the idea of eternity is so incredibly dull, and paradise is relative so eventually heaven would be hell because there would be no escape.
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Not just worship. The bible also says, "The wages of sin is death." So, we must also have no sin before we die.
thats actually impossible... you get to heaven through God's mercy and by following Jesus.
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So he's not all about love then- he's about love on the condition that you believe and act exactly how he tells you to? I see- Jesus is a one man totalitarian state- Stalin could have learnt a lot from him clearly.

The whole thing about repenting is nuts- no matter what i've done, it's fine so long as I ask for forgiveness? So murderers and war criminals go to heaven so long as they say sorry to god, whereas anyone who has been charitable, good and selfless dies just because they happened not to believe in the bible's mumbo jumbo?

I don't see why anyone would want to go to heaven (if it even existed) anyway- the idea of eternity is so incredibly dull, and paradise is relative so eventually heaven would be hell because there would be no escape.
I adore you right now. What I bolded, is awesome. True, if Hitler repented he'd be okay. But if someone who'd done nothing but good their whole life, only they didn't believe in God, didn't repent, they'd burn forever.
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