Why do males fake being a female sub?

itslate · 11-28-2014, 06:29 AM

Hey there.

So I recently (about a week ago) started a new D/s chat-relationship. It went pretty great. There were some things I found a bit odd, like how she wanted to get right into dares and not talk about personal stuff really. But people are different, so I wasn't too sceptical at first. And lets face it, there are far less female subs than male subs around, so one has to grasp at every straw, right?

I got more sceptical when she sent me pictures of three different suitcases of hers, that I figured after careful observation were actually from the same one (long story) and a pic of "her" hand, before I could give instructions for holding a note or whatever. I then demanded another pic. And after A LOT of back and forth, she sent me a pic as requested, but with different, male hands holding the note

I am NOT going to out him, because I don't make a habit out of making enemies. Plus, he can just make a new fake account and he didn't want to harm me in any way, as far as I can tell.

The thing is, why do this? Why not just post an add looking for a male-male roleplay, wherein one plays a female submissive? I'm pretty sure you might find people for that, there are loads of male masters around here.
Was he maybe trying to steal my dares and rules? I don't think he actually submitted to me, because most stuff (like clothes control) was just impossible for him to do. He was pretty smart with a good backstory and some argumentative skills, so I think it was all a mental exercise.

And also, how high would you guys guess is the quota for fakes among female accounts on this site or others?

tl,dr: Demand picture proof of your female subs.

Ly Ph · 11-28-2014, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by itslate

tl,dr: Demand picture proof of your female subs.

Same goes for dommes. I actually think I got more fake male responses to my ads in the past than females. Personally I go for the very short audio chat on say skype. Its hard to fake and I only get them to talk to me for a few seconds.

Perhaps a sub would fake it just to get some one to play with them and a dom just to get one over some one for a joke. I would be interested to hear from some one who has faked it in the past and there reasons why.

itslate · 11-28-2014, 09:08 AM

Yeah, female doms as well. Maybe everyone who claims to be female

Yeah I would like a faker to talk here, too. You could make a new account if you wanted. It's just that I really don't get what is in it for you, if you know the relationship is doomed to fail. Certainly it's not just being evil? People have reasons.

jlstockton25 · 11-28-2014, 09:37 AM

I don't think anyone pretends to be female with malicious intent. I think a lot of it is just boredom, they want companionship and know they won't get it if they're a male. It's not just gender that gets lied about here, a lot of times it's age or marital status too. I think it all boils down to wanting to be accepted, and "becoming" what they perceive to be desirable. It's harder for a married fifty year old male to find someone to play with, so they pretend to be a twenty something female to get people to talk to them. It's sad, but true.

mikel5 · 11-28-2014, 09:41 AM

it depends on motive

ive even had someone pretend to be domme but was actually a guy who wanted to blackmail me

Iodine · 11-28-2014, 09:52 AM

Logically speaking, if you are looking for a short term fling or one off thing just to get your rocks off and you don't give a damn about the other person, its easier to get what you want by pretending to be a girl. Thats why I think they do it anyway.

I find it insulting as all hell when I find out someone pretends to be what they are not, hell ive even had the same person play me using two accounts before, so im sorry to hear that its happened to you.

And on your last question, Id guess most of the lower post girls here are actually guys in disguise.

itslate · 11-28-2014, 10:49 AM

With this guy, he did quite a bit of work. He made this second picture and all. I think he really wanted a longer relationship. And that's actually quite sad

I don't think he wanted to blackmail me, but you can never be sure.

realwing · 11-28-2014, 11:08 AM

People notice things that are in short supply and greatly sought after, such as female subs, and latch on to that thing so they can be a more important person or have a more notable object that others. It's a natural instinct, to feel important.

I don't think people would think "I want to be important", it's something controlled by the subconcious. It's also awkward to talk about because it's a sort of paradox, as me telling you this is me also trying to feel important.

itslate · 11-28-2014, 01:27 PM

Another thing, going vice versa:

Is there any legitimate argument for a person NOT to send one proof picture if the relationship is intended to go longer? I feel like a pic of a hand holding a note is pretty safe for both parties.

Asteroth · 11-28-2014, 02:13 PM

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Jah Brother · 11-28-2014, 03:38 PM

I think they do it because they think it's easier to find a match. But if you put some effort in it in a non-creepy/spamming way you'll find someone anyway to who you don't have to lie.

Sapphire · 11-28-2014, 04:52 PM

I honestly think they don't realize that it hurts you. They are more concerned to get the attention they desire. Its selfish , but they don't intend to upset anyone.

I think it is as hard for them to find what they are looking for as it is for you, they are just a tad bit more desperate and definitely less respectful of others.

itslate · 11-28-2014, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sapphire

I honestly think they don't realize that it hurts you. They are more concerned to get the attention they desire. Its selfish , but they don't intend to upset anyone.

I think it is as hard for them to find what they are looking for as it is for you, they are just a tad bit more desperate and definitely less respectful of others.

I'm glad he didn't hurt me. If I had found out way later, he most definetly would have, but I demanded proof before things got too deep.

But it's really nice to see some lovely, honest girls on this site like yourself. Helps to not lose hope

LitDarkness · 11-28-2014, 09:37 PM

I wouldn't know but my two cents are:
Being a girl makes finding Doms, subs,switches, easier. You only get asked to be one every hour. Being female makes it easier, to find someone. I don't think it's to hurt anyone I just think its desperate guys, who have all but gave up hope in finding one.

Oh and whoever mentioned giving a pic. I know holding a piece of paper out with words written on it, would be nearly unable to identify you. But I wouldn't give a picture of that imeaditly. For the reasons that once most guys gets pictures they want more and pester you for them constantly. I will however give pictures after a certain point of trust, which takes a while.

Now to hope my pm box doesn't overflow with picture requests.

lola.fox · 11-28-2014, 10:11 PM

i agree with most of the people on here.. some people are just lonely and don't know how to meet others by being themselves which is a shame. hopefully those with malicious intent aren't easy to find though! as for the picture.. i agree with the above ^ once some people on this site find out you'll send photos, the messages are endless. although honestly.. i wouldn't send a simple 'this is me' photo in the future until i felt ready because i don't really care if people don't believe i am who i say i am

11-28-2014, 06:29 AM	#1
itslate Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Germany Posts: 45 Blog Entries: 8	Why do males fake being a female sub? Hey there. So I recently (about a week ago) started a new D/s chat-relationship. It went pretty great. There were some things I found a bit odd, like how she wanted to get right into dares and not talk about personal stuff really. But people are different, so I wasn't too sceptical at first. And lets face it, there are far less female subs than male subs around, so one has to grasp at every straw, right? I got more sceptical when she sent me pictures of three different suitcases of hers, that I figured after careful observation were actually from the same one (long story) and a pic of "her" hand, before I could give instructions for holding a note or whatever. I then demanded another pic. And after A LOT of back and forth, she sent me a pic as requested, but with different, male hands holding the note I am NOT going to out him, because I don't make a habit out of making enemies. Plus, he can just make a new fake account and he didn't want to harm me in any way, as far as I can tell. The thing is, why do this? Why not just post an add looking for a male-male roleplay, wherein one plays a female submissive? I'm pretty sure you might find people for that, there are loads of male masters around here. Was he maybe trying to steal my dares and rules? I don't think he actually submitted to me, because most stuff (like clothes control) was just impossible for him to do. He was pretty smart with a good backstory and some argumentative skills, so I think it was all a mental exercise. And also, how high would you guys guess is the quota for fakes among female accounts on this site or others? tl,dr: Demand picture proof of your female subs. __________________ M/30/Hetero/Dom. Likes, Dislikes, Limits - Milovana Profile with teases and videos My blog - My old ad

11-28-2014, 09:08 AM	#3
itslate Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Germany Posts: 45 Blog Entries: 8	Yeah, female doms as well. Maybe everyone who claims to be female Yeah I would like a faker to talk here, too. You could make a new account if you wanted. It's just that I really don't get what is in it for you, if you know the relationship is doomed to fail. Certainly it's not just being evil? People have reasons. __________________ M/30/Hetero/Dom. Likes, Dislikes, Limits - Milovana Profile with teases and videos My blog - My old ad

11-28-2014, 09:37 AM	#4
jlstockton25 getDare Devil Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,268 Blog Entries: 89	I don't think anyone pretends to be female with malicious intent. I think a lot of it is just boredom, they want companionship and know they won't get it if they're a male. It's not just gender that gets lied about here, a lot of times it's age or marital status too. I think it all boils down to wanting to be accepted, and "becoming" what they perceive to be desirable. It's harder for a married fifty year old male to find someone to play with, so they pretend to be a twenty something female to get people to talk to them. It's sad, but true. __________________ 31 . F . Bi . Slave . . . darling I'm a nightmare dressed like a daydream Last edited by jlstockton25; 11-28-2014 at 09:39 AM.

11-28-2014, 09:41 AM	#5
mikel5 getDare Sweetheart Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 479	it depends on motive ive even had someone pretend to be domme but was actually a guy who wanted to blackmail me __________________ 19 male likes: pain, cbt, humiliation and femdom limits:ass play curious about: water sports, multiple orgasms, ruined orgasm, post orgasm torture PM Dares SPANK- I will spank my balls per letter of your full name (if you are f) or a name of any other girl

11-28-2014, 09:52 AM	#6
Iodine getDare Succubus Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,541 Blog Entries: 24	Logically speaking, if you are looking for a short term fling or one off thing just to get your rocks off and you don't give a damn about the other person, its easier to get what you want by pretending to be a girl. Thats why I think they do it anyway. I find it insulting as all hell when I find out someone pretends to be what they are not, hell ive even had the same person play me using two accounts before, so im sorry to hear that its happened to you. And on your last question, Id guess most of the lower post girls here are actually guys in disguise. __________________ 25/male/BI Take control of what you have power over instead of craving control over what you don't. Mysterious hyperlink!

11-28-2014, 10:49 AM	#7
itslate Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Germany Posts: 45 Blog Entries: 8	With this guy, he did quite a bit of work. He made this second picture and all. I think he really wanted a longer relationship. And that's actually quite sad I don't think he wanted to blackmail me, but you can never be sure. __________________ M/30/Hetero/Dom. Likes, Dislikes, Limits - Milovana Profile with teases and videos My blog - My old ad

11-28-2014, 11:08 AM	#8
realwing Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: UK Posts: 208 Blog Entries: 7	People notice things that are in short supply and greatly sought after, such as female subs, and latch on to that thing so they can be a more important person or have a more notable object that others. It's a natural instinct, to feel important. I don't think people would think "I want to be important", it's something controlled by the subconcious. It's also awkward to talk about because it's a sort of paradox, as me telling you this is me also trying to feel important. __________________ 21 / M / UK / Gay About Me \| Tumblr \| Short Fiction \| Kinks and Toys

11-28-2014, 01:27 PM	#9
itslate Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Germany Posts: 45 Blog Entries: 8	Another thing, going vice versa: Is there any legitimate argument for a person NOT to send one proof picture if the relationship is intended to go longer? I feel like a pic of a hand holding a note is pretty safe for both parties. __________________ M/30/Hetero/Dom. Likes, Dislikes, Limits - Milovana Profile with teases and videos My blog - My old ad

11-28-2014, 02:13 PM	#10
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11-28-2014, 03:38 PM	#11
Jah Brother Distinguished Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 620 Blog Entries: 3	I think they do it because they think it's easier to find a match. But if you put some effort in it in a non-creepy/spamming way you'll find someone anyway to who you don't have to lie.

11-28-2014, 04:52 PM	#12
Sapphire Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 50 Blog Entries: 3	I honestly think they don't realize that it hurts you. They are more concerned to get the attention they desire. Its selfish , but they don't intend to upset anyone. I think it is as hard for them to find what they are looking for as it is for you, they are just a tad bit more desperate and definitely less respectful of others. __________________ Things You Should Know About Me 1) I am not a Mistress That is all, carry on!

11-28-2014, 09:37 PM	#14
LitDarkness Truth or Dare Zealot Join Date: May 2014 Location: Earth Posts: 6,116 Blog Entries: 289	I wouldn't know but my two cents are: Being a girl makes finding Doms, subs,switches, easier. You only get asked to be one every hour. Being female makes it easier, to find someone. I don't think it's to hurt anyone I just think its desperate guys, who have all but gave up hope in finding one. Oh and whoever mentioned giving a pic. I know holding a piece of paper out with words written on it, would be nearly unable to identify you. But I wouldn't give a picture of that imeaditly. For the reasons that once most guys gets pictures they want more and pester you for them constantly. I will however give pictures after a certain point of trust, which takes a while. Now to hope my pm box doesn't overflow with picture requests. __________________ M/Novisexual/24/sub Do have female parts. 30/1,603 edges+ 2 more days of denial after edges Make My Denial Harder Denial Diary 6,000th post tasks and reports Likes + Limits Stuff I Can Use for Dares BDSM Test Results PM DARES Stories & Poems Spelling or Grammar Mistake: Let Me Know Help Break My Cursing Habit Live with people and do not own toys. Keep in mind when daring me please. Not your bitch and calling me names or trying to Dom me is probitted. Violators will be declared as idiots.

11-28-2014, 10:11 PM	#15
lola.fox ♡ limited edition - cock tease barbie ♡ Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 1,803 Blog Entries: 53	i agree with most of the people on here.. some people are just lonely and don't know how to meet others by being themselves which is a shame. hopefully those with malicious intent aren't easy to find though! as for the picture.. i agree with the above ^ once some people on this site find out you'll send photos, the messages are endless. although honestly.. i wouldn't send a simple 'this is me' photo in the future until i felt ready because i don't really care if people don't believe i am who i say i am