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Old 03-10-2011, 12:53 AM   #46
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i think hes right, u can always do an Anonymous pic, guess they are afraid what guys would do with their pics, we have some real wierd ppl here.

and why all girls who sign up new, put no pics in their limits instantly? are they guys pretending ?
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Old 03-10-2011, 01:57 AM   #47
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Not sure why people are really butthurt over this subject. Big deal if a girl over the internet doesn't want to give out photos it's her deal and her right.

Quite frankly we guys are perverts, many if not most of us are after girls and will take anyone you find with tits. And basically over the internet people don't have the best reputation. It's easy to be stabbed in the back when all the other person has to do to never see you again is hit a single button and "poof" you're gone from their life and anything they got from you is theirs to do with as they wish. And quite frankly the demand for amatuer guys getting naked and masturbating no matter how hot they are, is probably 0 or actually probably negative. I'm sure many would like to see less naked men on the internet.

Though demand for amateur girls is quite high, always has been and always is. (See "men are perverts") So you may say you're trustworthy, but how trustworthy can you be if you're demanding and asking for naked pictures and you haven't even known the girl for a few months. In all honesty you can be talking for a year with someone and not really know them, in real life or the internet. Hell on the internet all you really know about someone is what they are telling you. You can't meet up with friends and get juicy details, you wont know any ex's or really anyone that can truely give you a full circle picture of the other.

So in conclusion stop bitching and moaning about not getting pictures, if the girl wants to show one she will if she doesn't either move the fuck on or treat her like a human being and you know be friendly and not just talk to them for their body. Girls do have this wonderful thing known as a personality that can be just as sexy as their tits.

If you can't find a girl that wont show even a modest picture in all honesty its not that the world is filled with fakes, your personality probably just sucks and reaks of "Gimme porns!"

Oh also for more reason why girls should actually refrain from giving out photos...How many times have you heard of guys life being ruined because he gave out a naked picture, now compare that how many girls you've heard of having their lives ruined, and well there you go. And don't give people that "Well they can hide their face and make in anonymous" crap. You know it might be a foreign concept but some people have this thing called decency and self respect.
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Old 03-10-2011, 06:56 AM   #48
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So in conclusion stop bitching and moaning about not getting pictures, if the girl wants to show one she will if she doesn't either move the fuck on or treat her like a human being and you know be friendly and not just talk to them for their body. Girls do have this wonderful thing known as a personality that can be just as sexy as their tits.

If you can't find a girl that wont show even a modest picture in all honesty its not that the world is filled with fakes, your personality probably just sucks and reaks of "Gimme porns!"

And don't give people that "Well they can hide their face and make in anonymous" crap. You know it might be a foreign concept but some people have this thing called decency and self respect.
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Old 03-10-2011, 07:00 AM   #49
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Old 03-10-2011, 09:02 AM   #50
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Any master, who understands the internet, must surely realise the reasons why a girl refuses to give out pics, especially naked pics. Given the real risks, arguments of this type are no more than attempts at coercion.

Slave/master relationships are supposed to be based upon trust and respect. So why do some masters think that they are exempt from having to earn this trust & respect from their subs/slaves.

Not giving out pics to complete strangers, generally has less to do with fakes and more to do with common sense, decency and intelligence. The decision to give pics or not is entirely with the girl and any counter argument is simply coercion.
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Old 03-10-2011, 09:15 AM   #51
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I swear I am a girl but I really don't do pics/cam.

Its cause when I USED to have facebook a guy asked me to be his friend. He said he was an old primary school friend and I remembered his name and I recognised him so I accepted. After a while, it turned into a dating thing and we met up a couple of times and then it got serious. We would meet up all the time and send dirty videos and pics to each other. Then we broke up. He uploaded all the images and pics to a porn site and sent the link to my email saying "Bet you regret breaking up now". I contacted the porn site and they did take them off but a couple of friends found out because he had sent the link to them too.

After that, I cannot trust people with my pictures and videos. Even without my head it could still be sent to a porn site. Its safety.

Can you see the girls point of view?
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Old 03-10-2011, 09:18 AM   #52
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Agee with above

Also would you rather be told the truth about not sending pics or get a fake one of someone else, even if the person is a real female, but doesnt want to send pics to soneone they barely know, because you have been bugging them so much

I think most people on here for any length of time have had fake photos sent, but does thus mean anything - especially if you've bugged so long for a photo.

If it's the other way around and they offer a pic that's fake you have caught your criminal

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Old 03-10-2011, 09:25 AM   #53
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Another thing this thread was started by a person who later is banned

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Old 03-10-2011, 10:08 AM   #54
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Just because a girl doesn't send a photo doesn't mean she is a fake, I wouldnt sent photos to 90% getdare purely because you can never know who youre sending images to and what the other person will do with them once they have them, they may simply just look at it then go away but many people give photos to people they think they can trust then find that later down the roads the same photos are being used to force them into predicaments.

serious serious trust is needed before sending photos should be considered its not even a matter of of being shy. Faceless photos with a user name on a piece of paper is one thing but there are still many members who after increasingly short spaces of times or a first conversation will demand or expect nude photographs then accuse a member of being fake for not doing this.

Especially on the internet you need to be extremely vigilant about who you are talking to, what you say and what you send as you can never be 100% sure that the person you are talking to on the other side of the computer screen is who they they say they are, for all you know it could be a next door neighbour or a paedophile, and as much as you think you know them and you are safe because its all virtual your actions online have the potential to impact your life in the real world as much as your actions in the real world.
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Old 03-10-2011, 11:54 AM   #55
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Honestly, I'm not going to ask for compromising pics off the bat. But if we've been talking, we've been hitting it off, and they refuse to give a clothed, below the face picture of them making some distinct gesture like a peace sign or something, that's a red flag. I'll certainly do the same in return.
This is very similar to my attitude. I may ask for, perhaps, a picture of something written on a person's finger/hand/other body part at first as confirmation.
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Old 03-10-2011, 01:37 PM   #56
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Life is about risk taking and making decisions. Everyone has his/her risk tolerance that is 100% respectable, and anyone has the choice to initiate relationships with someone that meet certain requirements or not. Not all dominants that request graphic proofs are 'stupid perverts' (I donīt see the problem with the 'pervert' side, anyway :-)) , and not all subs that donīt send pics are fakes.

I've been +12 years online and the worst kind of exposure I've ever seen doesn't come from online pic exchanges but from 'revenge' type postings coming from long term offline relationships. I've seen sets of pics including wedding pics and daily life pics with faces uncovered, nude, gangbang pics and even passport id copies and details about job . Obviously, the woman 'trusted' the person that posted it, at least some day. So if you want to be totally free of risks, the best practique would be just donīt take a single nude pic in your whole life, or, even better, just donīt take any kind of pic, since out there you can meet some photoshop artists that can insert your face in any kind of porn shoots..
Of course, this is not realistic, because we all asume some risks once we get up and go out there every day.. between sending your pic to any wannabe 'master' that ask for it without any kind of introduction and not taking any pic at all there is a middle point, but this point is not the same for everyone and it must be respected.
I've had pics sent to me without asking, I've had relationships with exhibicionist subs and couples that asked me to post some of their pics in public forums since reading the comments from 'perverts' was a big part of their fun, -yes, we must say the truth, but also ALL the truth, and this kind of people DO exist and there are more than some can imagine- I've asked and currently ask for some pics proofs and I openly say that this is not just about trust, this is part of my excitement, although I know that it's not 'politically correct' in the BDSM lifestyle, and finally, I've had GREAT pure email relationships in the past. Today, I know that asking from some kind of requirements I'm getting ride of many fakes, but at the same time, I lose contacts with GREAT REAL female submissives, this is my choice and I accept the negative part, this is the CHOICE part I was talking above. Reducing your choices is sometimes a good practique that saves you a lot of time, nobody meet all the men or women of their city to find their best match, and I dedicate a lot of time to my sub so being strict with my requirements and not jumping from one to another in eternal 'testing' periods has been the best decision I've taking in years.
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Old 03-10-2011, 01:38 PM   #57
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I can see the point of the op, but I've gotta disagree with him. I do normaly ask for a picture of someone straight off the bat, but it tend to be something just so they can prove who they are, front on photo, right thumbs up, left hand holding paper with 'hello fromo' writen on it, just as a way for someone proving who they are, that way, things arn't being pushed, and it seems acceptable.

I can see the obviase problems with sending photo's over pm, plus the repurcusions later, as several have posted, but that doesn't really tend to be an issue if a releationship can build and trust can form between the 2, then things would come naturaly.

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Old 03-10-2011, 09:21 PM   #58
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As a female dom who has had many different submissives, I will say that I do not EVER request photos right away or camera sessions for that matter. ANY of my subs that I have right now can tell you that I have never once forced them to send me photos or to do anything on camera unless they were 100% comfortable.

I cannot believe that people are getting so uptight about photos. Honestly, as a woman, I don't share photos unless they are 100% clean. Even then, I blur the face a smidge so that it does not appear to be me because you can never be too careful.

A prime example is that a teacher was teaching high school students in Missouri when she was fired because 16+ years ago she starred in five adult films. Since then, she had gone to college and had become a teacher. This is the SECOND time she's been fired because somehow her students keep finding the files. She's even changed her name and all of that jazz to escape it, but she can't.

So don't get all up in a pinch because women won't send you photos. If adult films can ruin your career, think about photos. It can ruin a woman's life.

I'm also speaking from personal experience here. I had a rather nasty moron in my life who hired a girl who looked EXACTLY like me, aside from a spider tattoo on her right hindquarter, and he hired her to do a "gang rape" video and he posted it on the internet to ruin my reputation. That was well over 5 years ago, and I still get questioned about it every now and then. My reputation was ruined by a FAKE video, imagine what a REAL video or a REAL photo will do?
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Old 03-10-2011, 09:35 PM   #59
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In my opinion, for proof (for the sake of the thread owners reason) They should make a sign, saying something of their approval (Like their username?) and showing their pussy, and nothing else, just a small glimpse. or their tits. and the sign. that would be good for most people, just for small proof that they really are a girl.
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In my opinion, for proof (for the sake of the thread owners reason) They should make a sign, saying something of their approval (Like their username?) and showing their pussy, and nothing else, just a small glimpse. or their tits. and the sign. that would be good for most people, just for small proof that they really are a girl.
ugh... that passage just gave me a really bad taste in the mouth.

I don't mean that in an offensive or provocative way; people have different vocabularies and manners of speech, if I don't like it, I should walk away. It was but a purely descriptive observation =)

And that should easily apply to any other situations, including a first-meeting between Dominants and submissives... if either one does not like where things are going, simply walk away. There is nothing one "should" or "should not" do.

And it's not even a gender-exclusive issue... it's a matter that would concern any human being...

I have had the experience of being talked into sending a picture, with writing-proof, and a very, very short period of time later, getting totally ignored. The last words from him, as a reply to my asking about what was on his mind, was 'fuck off'. With nothing else, no capitalization or period, even. That HURTS ! It doesn't even matter what your gender is, or whether you are submissive or dominant.
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