Zombie apocalypse

[HotMistress10]

Originally Posted by forrest.livingston8

1. That is true, and in that case they'll end up learning that they don't have an aptitude for such things. We'd be aiming to optimize the transfer of knowledge, so people that cannot learn mechanical engineering wouldn't try and learn it longer than it takes to get a very basic understanding/overview of what it is about.

2. Vaccinations are not something we'd be able to easily find, even by raiding. And antibiotics are going to be relatively impossible to find. If we get lucky and get a microbiologist, maybe we can produce out own, but I'd doubt it. Making sure that everyone stays clean, that our foodstuff stays untainted, and generally avoiding being a breeding place for such sickness would be the watchword.

1.I just feel like trying to explain cancer and infectious diseases to a idiot is a waste of time and we would be better off just skipping that

2.We would have to keep the place very very clean then.

[forrest.livingston8]

Originally Posted by HotMistress10

1.I just feel like trying to explain cancer and infectious diseases to a idiot is a waste of time and we would be better off just skipping that

2.We would have to keep the place very very clean then.

1. Think of it more like this: Even an idiot should know how to do basic first aid, basic CPR, and understand what to do in case there is a massive medical issue. If they cannot understand even that basic of knowledge, then we'll likely need to end up reconsidering them as potential survivors. Personally, I'd be killing off the people that couldn't understand the vast majority of things, but then again I don't want those people to breed.

2. Yes indeed. And we'd surely end up having issues with sickness, especially after raiding parties come back. We'd likely want to isolate the raiding parties for a short while to make sure they aren't obviously infected. And, of course, sexual sicknesses would be a large issue given how much fucking appears to be going to happen, so hopefully we could find a way to counter that.

[HotMistress10]

Originally Posted by forrest.livingston8

1. Think of it more like this: Even an idiot should know how to do basic first aid, basic CPR, and understand what to do in case there is a massive medical issue. If they cannot understand even that basic of knowledge, then we'll likely need to end up reconsidering them as potential survivors. Personally, I'd be killing off the people that couldn't understand the vast majority of things, but then again I don't want those people to breed.

2. Yes indeed. And we'd surely end up having issues with sickness, especially after raiding parties come back. We'd likely want to isolate the raiding parties for a short while to make sure they aren't obviously infected. And, of course, sexual sicknesses would be a large issue given how much fucking appears to be going to happen, so hopefully we could find a way to counter that.

1. I agree they should know the basics but that would only take like 5 minutes to teach so that would be no big deal.
2. STD's would be a big problem, also we would not have any porn which is a concern for me. Maybe we could have people perform live for us!

[forrest.livingston8]

Originally Posted by HotMistress10

1. I agree they should know the basics but that would only take like 5 minutes to teach so that would be no big deal.
2. STD's would be a big problem, also we would not have any porn which is a concern for me. Maybe we could have people perform live for us!

1. The issue though is that five minutes per basic area might work for someone who is intelligent and can assimilate knowledge quickly. But for someone stupid, it'll surely take weeks of an hour a day to get them to understand the basics of most things. If we want to have less-than optimally intelligent people with us, we're going to need to keep them properly situated and trained.

2. Yup which means being a bit less than ultimately loose, of course. And I don't think a lack of pornography would be that big of an issue. If we didn't have people performing live shows, I'd assume that most people would be relatively forthright when they're looking for sexual congress. Hopefully! There might still be some people who aren't smart enough to get the new system, but they'll quickly learn, or die.

[like to be cruel]

Originally Posted by forrest.livingston8

...A katana is a horrible weapon. If you must have a sword, go with something that will still work after you go through the first few necks, such as a two handed sword...

ok forest you made some good points but this is so..

first! a katana is a two handed sword -
except niten ryu style=Katana+Wakizashi

2. It cuts through bones like a hot knife cuts through snow, if you know how to do.
and wield it with two hands

3. A Katana wont break ever from a blow! unlike other swords (broadswords, longswords) - you can fire with a handgun on the blade and it will cut the bullet in half. proofed!

4. A Katana is the most sharp of all 2 handed swords and lowest on weight.
like 500g/1pound. there are also special heavy versions (2-4pounds) for war.

5. It´s simply the best sword ever made

[forrest.livingston8]

Originally Posted by like to be cruel

first! a katana is a two handed sword -
except niten ryu style=Katana+Wakizashi

Yes, a katana is a "two handed sword". But it is not a "two handed sword" in the sense that it is not a part of the category of commonly understood two handed swords.

If you want to play semantics, then you're free to play with the zeds, hahah.

Originally Posted by like to be cruel

2. It cuts through bones like a hot knife cuts through snow, if you know how to do.
and wield it with two hands

You are making the assumption that the person in question has a masterwork katana which is highly unlikely given the expense required to obtain such a weapon.

Furthermore, that is also assuming the blade is at the optimal sharpness, which only lasts for the first cut. Microdamage is done to the edge of a blade after each use which causes it to become dull. You may get a few cuts through some zombies, but it'll become more and more difficult throughout a battle. You'll have to spend a good deal of time properly honing the blade after each battle to keep it in working order.

On the flip side, my staff will still be breaking zombie necks while you're busy honing your katana.

Originally Posted by like to be cruel

3. A Katana wont break ever from a blow! unlike other swords (broadswords, longswords) - you can fire with a handgun on the blade and it will cut the bullet in half. proofed!

It is a good thing that the zombies aren't going to be shooting at us, right? And that we aren't going to be trying to do anything moronic like block bullets shot at us by raiders, eh?

Also, provide a citation for your claim if you want to claim it is proven. I'd love to see the work done to "prove" such a claim.

Originally Posted by like to be cruel

4. A Katana is the most sharp of all 2 handed swords and lowest on weight.
like 500g/1pound. there are also special heavy versions (2-4pounds) for war.

Where are you getting the data on weight? I doubt you're going to find a katana under two pounds, and a "special heavy" version is more likely a Ōdachi, which is going to be surely massive indeed.

Besides that, though, again: The sharpness of a blade is only important on the first cut. Where a katana normally shines, which you seem to have overlooked, is that they hold edges exceptionally well and can be honed back into working order without too much work right on the field.

Originally Posted by like to be cruel

5. It´s simply the best sword ever made

Your opinion is extremely biased, surely based upon the "squee!" factor of katanas, hah hah. They are very good weapons, yes, but given the context of this situation you'd be better off mounting the katana on the end of a pole and using it that way, as the katana is too short (short means close to the zeds, which mean within grapple range. You may want to think you're a good enough swordsperson to avoid being grappled by zeds, but that's the type of thinking non-survivors have).

But if you want a katana, go for it. Get a masterwork properly smithed one now before you need it, assuming you don't already have one, and make sure to practice. Keep the materials to hone the blade yourself, and try and have access to sharpening materials as well when it becomes time to do a real touch up. And be prepared to use your tanto when you're grappled and about to be bitten.

[maxS]

I have no clue what y'all talking about (: but I would def call Woody Harrelson for help

[forsaken5678]

1) What form of currency, if any, will we be using? Gasoline, food, seashells. harem access?

2) How do we control access to the harem (because why the fuck would we not have one)?

3) How do we determine WHO gets access to the harem?

4) Since not everybody will be allowed access to the harem at all times, we need to figure out how to control access to the livestock...cuz...you know...

[forrest.livingston8]

Originally Posted by forsaken5678

1) What form of currency, if any, will we be using? Gasoline, food, seashells. harem access?

2) How do we control access to the harem (because why the fuck would we not have one)?

3) How do we determine WHO gets access to the harem?

4) Since not everybody will be allowed access to the harem at all times, we need to figure out how to control access to the livestock...cuz...you know...

1) "Currency" is normally a representative means of wealth, compared to a barter based system which would be more optimal for this type of situation. But of course, even better would be a communal system that does not have very much personal property, as until we had the community to support those types of ideals, they become dangerous.

2), 3), 4) I'm certain the rest of you can work something out, given the importance of this issue. Hopefully it involves dueling so as to help kill off the lesser survivors.

[forsaken5678]

Originally Posted by forrest.livingston8

2), 3), 4) I'm certain the rest of you can work something out, given the importance of this issue. Hopefully it involves dueling so as to help kill off the lesser survivors.

I LIKE this idea! Good thinking! HAHAHAHA

[Iodine]

My plan involves tar and alot of feathers.

... even during the zombie Apocalypse everyone needs a hobby, and mine shall be zombie chicken races.

Ok in all fairness the odds of me surviving the day are slim, i live in a very big town and am likely to be overrun within minutes unless i have prior warning that this is happening. That and the fact that i cant drive means any transport is on foot. So my chances of survival are pretty damn slim no matter what plan i make.

[forrest.livingston8]

Originally Posted by iodine

That and the fact that i cant drive means any transport is on foot. So my chances of survival are pretty damn slim no matter what plan i make.

Are you not legally allowed to drive, do you not know how to drive, or are you physically unable to drive?

In the case of the former, it is obviously of no issue when the shit and the fan meet.

In the case of the latter, then that is understandable, but it is understandable.

And in the case of the middle, then you should strive to at least learn the basics of driving, for the sake of survival if nothing else.

But that aside, of course, cars will not be a very good survival solution unless you prepare with something that can easily go offroad, and is extreme robust. A bicycle would be better, although motorcycles (especially dual sport or dirt bikes) would work well too, for short bursts.

[forrest.livingston8]

Assuming anyone is still actively interested in this topic, especially you horny potatoes, here is a useful article detailing the smallest number of people needed to retain a stable population: http://www.newscientist.com/article/...l#.U8a1mo2gFSE