Dare: Cumulative hot potato - Slavery - Page 850

Lifechastity · 09-15-2023, 01:58 PM

1. Slavery lasts a day a line.
2. Boomer may transfer the slave to other Master.
3. Boomer informs loser how to sleep
4. Boomber tells loser how to use the bathroom
5. Boomer controls clothing when home
6. Boomer gets to decide some hypno for the loser to listen to each day or any type of porn with a task after/during
7. Boomer has full control over losers sexual activities.
8. Boomer can decide one dice dare for the loser to complete.
9. Slave has to respond the boomer within 1 hour always. For every minute late, slavery increases by a day.
10.Each day, boomer decides if slave will eat with cutlery, their hands, or nothing.
11. Slave can pick 4 lines. Boomer picks which of the 4 is deleted, which one slave is allowed to alter, which one the boomer gets to alter. And the 4th one the slave can delete but must give up 2 limits or triple the time. Boomers choice . So one gets deleted. One gets altered by slave, one by boomer, and one CAN be deleted at a cost if slave chooses
12. Boomer controls the amount of water and food the slave gets to eat. Starvation is allowed upto 30 hours and no water upto 12 hours.

germagrimes · 09-15-2023, 08:10 PM

1. Slavery lasts a day a line.
2. Boomer may transfer the slave to other Master.
3. Boomer informs loser how to sleep
4. Boomber tells loser how to use the bathroom
5. Boomer controls clothing when home
6. Boomer gets to decide some hypno for the loser to listen to each day or any type of porn with a task after/during
7. Boomer has full control over losers sexual activities.
8. Boomer can decide one dice dare for the loser to complete.
9. Slave has to respond the boomer within 1 hour always. For every minute late, slavery increases by a day.
10.Each day, boomer decides if slave will eat with cutlery, their hands, or nothing.
11. Slave can pick 4 lines. Boomer picks which of the 4 is deleted, which one slave is allowed to alter, which one the boomer gets to alter. And the 4th one the slave can delete but must give up 2 limits or triple the time. Boomers choice . So one gets deleted. One gets altered by slave, one by boomer, and one CAN be deleted at a cost if slave chooses
12. Boomer controls the amount of water and food the slave gets to eat. Starvation is allowed upto 30 hours and no water upto 12 hours.
13. Slave can decide to remove a line, but one more is added that pushes slaves dislikes/limits.

Irock23 · 09-16-2023, 10:38 AM

Boom…

1. Roll a dice X the number of lines and that is how long slavery lasts

cqqm1 · 09-16-2023, 01:31 PM

1. Roll a dice X the number of lines and that is how long slavery lasts
2. Slave starts a discord group, reports and sends proof of all tasks. Any poster may join so link must be posted in this thread.

slaveinf · 09-22-2023, 01:51 AM

1. Roll a dice X the number of lines and that is how long slavery lasts
2. Slave starts a discord group, reports and sends proof of all tasks. Any poster may join so link must be posted in this thread.
3. Boomer decides how they sleep

Ghost1711 · 09-22-2023, 01:56 AM

1. Roll a dice X the number of lines and that is how long slavery lasts
2. Slave starts a discord group, reports and sends proof of all tasks. Any poster may join so link must be posted in this thread.
3. Boomer decides how they sleep
4. Slaves are dolls as all clothes will be owned by boomer. Slave is nude unless boomer dresses his doll

micropimmelchen · 09-22-2023, 01:58 AM

1. Roll a dice X the number of lines and that is how long slavery lasts
2. Slave starts a discord group, reports and sends proof of all tasks. Any poster may join so link must be posted in this thread.
3. Boomer decides how they sleep
4. Slaves are dolls as all clothes will be owned by boomer. Slave is nude unless boomer dresses his doll
5. showing face (in prof pics oder vid) cant be a limit

Ghost1711 · 09-22-2023, 02:03 AM

1. Roll a dice X the number of lines and that is how long slavery lasts
2. Slave starts a discord group, reports and sends proof of all tasks. Any poster may join so link must be posted in this thread.
3. Boomer decides how they sleep
4. Slaves are dolls as all clothes will be owned by boomer. Slave is nude unless boomer dresses his doll
5. showing face (in prof pics oder vid) cant be a limit
6. Slave can be promoted through an onlyfans account

PaulW · 09-22-2023, 03:30 AM

1. Roll a dice X the number of lines and that is how long slavery lasts
2. Slave starts a discord group, reports and sends proof of all tasks. Any poster may join so link must be posted in this thread.
3. Boomer decides how they sleep
4. Slaves are dolls as all clothes will be owned by boomer. Slave is nude unless boomer dresses his doll
5. showing face (in prof pics oder vid) cant be a limit
6. Slave can be promoted through an onlyfans account
7. Each 6 days slave must do a cam show of at least an hour with a script made by the boomer, boomer can invite both his friends and the slave's friends to watch

Ghost1711 · 09-22-2023, 03:46 AM

1. Roll a dice X the number of lines and that is how long slavery lasts
2. Slave starts a discord group, reports and sends proof of all tasks. Any poster may join so link must be posted in this thread.
3. Boomer decides how they sleep
4. Slaves are dolls as all clothes will be owned by boomer. Slave is nude unless boomer dresses his doll
5. showing face (in prof pics oder vid) cant be a limit
6. Slave can be promoted through an onlyfans account
7. Each 6 days slave must do a cam show of at least an hour with a script made by the boomer, boomer can invite both his friends and the slave's friends to watch
8. If slave is not available for a cam show on a given day, slave must do a full strip video outdoors

DomGer · 10-09-2023, 07:47 AM

1. Roll a dice X the number of lines and that is how long slavery lasts
2. Slave starts a discord group, reports and sends proof of all tasks. Any poster may join so link must be posted in this thread.
3. Boomer decides how they sleep
4. Slaves are dolls as all clothes will be owned by boomer. Slave is nude unless boomer dresses his doll
5. showing face (in prof pics oder vid) cant be a limit
6. Slave can be promoted through an onlyfans account
7. Each 6 days slave must do a cam show of at least an hour with a script made by the boomer, boomer can invite both his friends and the slave's friends to watch
8. If slave is not available for a cam show on a given day, slave must do a full strip video outdoors
9. Slave can delete up to 3 lines but each deleted line brings a punishment and 2 lines within limits chosen by boomer

Ghost1711 · 10-09-2023, 08:11 AM

1. Roll a dice X the number of lines and that is how long slavery lasts
2. Slave starts a discord group, reports and sends proof of all tasks. Any poster may join so link must be posted in this thread.
3. Boomer decides how they sleep
4. Slaves are dolls as all clothes will be owned by boomer. Slave is nude unless boomer dresses his doll
5. showing face (in prof pics oder vid) cant be a limit
6. Slave can be promoted through an onlyfans account
7. Each 6 days slave must do a cam show of at least an hour with a script made by the boomer, boomer can invite both his friends and the slave's friends to watch
8. If slave is not available for a cam show on a given day, slave must do a full strip video outdoors
9. Slave can delete up to 3 lines but each deleted line brings a punishment and 2 lines within limits chosen by boomer
10. Slave gets a new id, character etc.

lakerlife123 · 10-15-2023, 07:42 AM

1. Roll a dice X the number of lines and that is how long slavery lasts
2. Slave starts a discord group, reports and sends proof of all tasks. Any poster may join so link must be posted in this thread.
3. Boomer decides how they sleep
4. Slaves are dolls as all clothes will be owned by boomer. Slave is nude unless boomer dresses his doll
5. showing face (in prof pics oder vid) cant be a limit
6. Slave can be promoted through an onlyfans account
7. Each 6 days slave must do a cam show of at least an hour with a script made by the boomer, boomer can invite both his friends and the slave's friends to watch
8. If slave is not available for a cam show on a given day, slave must do a full strip video outdoors
9. Slave can delete up to 3 lines but each deleted line brings a punishment and 2 lines within limits chosen by boomer
10. Slave gets a new id, character etc.
11. Boomer can control slave's cell phone wallpaper and lock screen for the duration

Ghost1711 · 10-15-2023, 08:06 AM

1. Roll a dice X the number of lines and that is how long slavery lasts
2. Slave starts a discord group, reports and sends proof of all tasks. Any poster may join so link must be posted in this thread.
3. Boomer decides how they sleep
4. Slaves are dolls as all clothes will be owned by boomer. Slave is nude unless boomer dresses his doll
5. showing face (in prof pics oder vid) cant be a limit
6. Slave can be promoted through an onlyfans account
7. Each 6 days slave must do a cam show of at least an hour with a script made by the boomer, boomer can invite both his friends and the slave's friends to watch
8. If slave is not available for a cam show on a given day, slave must do a full strip video outdoors
9. Slave can delete up to 3 lines but each deleted line brings a punishment and 2 lines within limits chosen by boomer
10. Slave gets a new id, character etc.
11. Boomer can control slave's cell phone wallpaper and lock screen for the duration
12. Boomer can do teamviewer session on slaves pc if within limits

slaveforall23 · 10-15-2023, 08:30 AM

1. Roll a dice X the number of lines and that is how long slavery lasts
2. Slave starts a discord group, reports and sends proof of all tasks. Any poster may join so link must be posted in this thread.
3. Boomer decides how they sleep
4. Slaves are dolls as all clothes will be owned by boomer. Slave is nude unless boomer dresses his doll
5. showing face (in prof pics oder vid) cant be a limit
6. Slave can be promoted through an onlyfans account
7. Each 6 days slave must do a cam show of at least an hour with a script made by the boomer, boomer can invite both his friends and the slave's friends to watch
8. If slave is not available for a cam show on a given day, slave must do a full strip video outdoors
9. Slave can delete up to 3 lines but each deleted line brings a punishment and 2 lines within limits chosen by boomer
10. Slave gets a new id, character etc.
11. Boomer can control slave's cell phone wallpaper and lock screen for the duration
12. Boomer can do teamviewer session on slaves pc if within limits
13. slave can delete line but as a result get 2 others

09-15-2023, 01:58 PM	#12736
Lifechastity Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2022 Location: India Posts: 132 Blog Entries: 3	1. Slavery lasts a day a line. 2. Boomer may transfer the slave to other Master. 3. Boomer informs loser how to sleep 4. Boomber tells loser how to use the bathroom 5. Boomer controls clothing when home 6. Boomer gets to decide some hypno for the loser to listen to each day or any type of porn with a task after/during 7. Boomer has full control over losers sexual activities. 8. Boomer can decide one dice dare for the loser to complete. 9. Slave has to respond the boomer within 1 hour always. For every minute late, slavery increases by a day. 10.Each day, boomer decides if slave will eat with cutlery, their hands, or nothing. 11. Slave can pick 4 lines. Boomer picks which of the 4 is deleted, which one slave is allowed to alter, which one the boomer gets to alter. And the 4th one the slave can delete but must give up 2 limits or triple the time. Boomers choice . So one gets deleted. One gets altered by slave, one by boomer, and one CAN be deleted at a cost if slave chooses 12. Boomer controls the amount of water and food the slave gets to eat. Starvation is allowed upto 30 hours and no water upto 12 hours. __________________ Kik: lifechastity_xd LIKES Games & bets, rules, mild denial & tease, semi public, joi, porn control, unfair treatment, long term, mild pain, Forced Nudity DISLIKES Feminization, dick worship, bj, anal CURIOUS Tpe, public, sph, rp, cbt, pet play, bondage, faproulette, voyeurism, Bladder control, corporal punishments, exercise LIMITS default & exploring PM DARES

09-15-2023, 08:10 PM	#12737
germagrimes Member Join Date: Apr 2023 Location: midwest US Posts: 57 Blog Entries: 1	1. Slavery lasts a day a line. 2. Boomer may transfer the slave to other Master. 3. Boomer informs loser how to sleep 4. Boomber tells loser how to use the bathroom 5. Boomer controls clothing when home 6. Boomer gets to decide some hypno for the loser to listen to each day or any type of porn with a task after/during 7. Boomer has full control over losers sexual activities. 8. Boomer can decide one dice dare for the loser to complete. 9. Slave has to respond the boomer within 1 hour always. For every minute late, slavery increases by a day. 10.Each day, boomer decides if slave will eat with cutlery, their hands, or nothing. 11. Slave can pick 4 lines. Boomer picks which of the 4 is deleted, which one slave is allowed to alter, which one the boomer gets to alter. And the 4th one the slave can delete but must give up 2 limits or triple the time. Boomers choice . So one gets deleted. One gets altered by slave, one by boomer, and one CAN be deleted at a cost if slave chooses 12. Boomer controls the amount of water and food the slave gets to eat. Starvation is allowed upto 30 hours and no water upto 12 hours. 13. Slave can decide to remove a line, but one more is added that pushes slaves dislikes/limits. __________________ Add to my calender! http://teamup.com/ks61stideb43hyqphz My dare wardrobe! www.getdare.com/bbs/blog.php?b=97371 Likes: underwear, socks, wedgies, jockstrap/cup, clothing, degradation, light piss, bathroom stuff, punishment dislikes/punishments: toothpaste, gags, chastity, some piss tasting, outdoor, hidden public, pain, long wedgies, hard to clean up, messy, long term limits: edging/orgasms any photos/videos, crossressing, full public, shit, anything i feel uncomfortable with

09-16-2023, 10:38 AM	#12738
Irock23 Distinguished Member Join Date: Aug 2023 Posts: 648 Blog Entries: 1	Boom… 1. Roll a dice X the number of lines and that is how long slavery lasts __________________ 18M Pm Dares https://www.getdare.com/bbs/blog.php?b=97666 Likes. Nipple torture, forced Exercise, eating gross food, Dislikes. Tedious tasks, spanking getting messy. Limits: Public, Family, Permanent, videos, illegal I am in this thread till August 12 2024 https://www.getdare.com/bbs/showthre...77907&page=850 Punish me https://www.getdare.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=432069 Skype: live:.cid.1e1330ec32d7a2e6 I may not cum or touch my dick till April 16, 2026

09-16-2023, 01:31 PM	#12739
cqqm1 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: USA Posts: 0	1. Roll a dice X the number of lines and that is how long slavery lasts 2. Slave starts a discord group, reports and sends proof of all tasks. Any poster may join so link must be posted in this thread. __________________ 58/m/usa limits: illegal, public, personal info, social suicide, family, blood, scat, piss, shaving, major pain, face, exposure, messy

09-22-2023, 01:51 AM	#12740
slaveinf Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 172 Blog Entries: 3	1. Roll a dice X the number of lines and that is how long slavery lasts 2. Slave starts a discord group, reports and sends proof of all tasks. Any poster may join so link must be posted in this thread. 3. Boomer decides how they sleep __________________ Male\36\UK Likes: Pain, Bondage, feminization, anal, cbt, oral Dislikes: Heavy pain, JOI Hard Limits: poo, cum, family, illegal, Pee, Public, messy, anything permanent, Cam, videos, face pics, blackmail If you PM me I will send you a picture of me in the position requested. My Toys, My PM Dares & Triggers http://bdsmtest.org/r/7924322 Kik: Infenron

09-22-2023, 01:56 AM	#12741
Ghost1711 Distinguished Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 520 Blog Entries: 3	1. Roll a dice X the number of lines and that is how long slavery lasts 2. Slave starts a discord group, reports and sends proof of all tasks. Any poster may join so link must be posted in this thread. 3. Boomer decides how they sleep 4. Slaves are dolls as all clothes will be owned by boomer. Slave is nude unless boomer dresses his doll __________________ Male crossdresser Likes and Limits: https://www.getdare.com/bbs/blog.php?b=90754 Kik: Ghostzombie92

09-22-2023, 01:58 AM	#12742
micropimmelchen getDare Sweetheart Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Germany / Hannover Posts: 357	1. Roll a dice X the number of lines and that is how long slavery lasts 2. Slave starts a discord group, reports and sends proof of all tasks. Any poster may join so link must be posted in this thread. 3. Boomer decides how they sleep 4. Slaves are dolls as all clothes will be owned by boomer. Slave is nude unless boomer dresses his doll 5. showing face (in prof pics oder vid) cant be a limit __________________ Kik: micropimmelchen see me completely nude on my kinktalk album Like: pee, being naked, outdoor, Public Humiliation, cum eating, Trying new things, truth or dare Want to try: loss of control dislike: scat, messy, anal Limits: social suicide, extreme pain, Illegal, videos My dick is xx" fully hard If you kik me "PW" I send you my getdare password

09-22-2023, 02:03 AM	#12743
Ghost1711 Distinguished Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 520 Blog Entries: 3	1. Roll a dice X the number of lines and that is how long slavery lasts 2. Slave starts a discord group, reports and sends proof of all tasks. Any poster may join so link must be posted in this thread. 3. Boomer decides how they sleep 4. Slaves are dolls as all clothes will be owned by boomer. Slave is nude unless boomer dresses his doll 5. showing face (in prof pics oder vid) cant be a limit 6. Slave can be promoted through an onlyfans account __________________ Male crossdresser Likes and Limits: https://www.getdare.com/bbs/blog.php?b=90754 Kik: Ghostzombie92

09-22-2023, 03:30 AM	#12744
PaulW Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Germany Posts: 104	1. Roll a dice X the number of lines and that is how long slavery lasts 2. Slave starts a discord group, reports and sends proof of all tasks. Any poster may join so link must be posted in this thread. 3. Boomer decides how they sleep 4. Slaves are dolls as all clothes will be owned by boomer. Slave is nude unless boomer dresses his doll 5. showing face (in prof pics oder vid) cant be a limit 6. Slave can be promoted through an onlyfans account 7. Each 6 days slave must do a cam show of at least an hour with a script made by the boomer, boomer can invite both his friends and the slave's friends to watch __________________ M/25 likes: humiliation, Control, degregation, sissification limits: piss,scat, illegal, oral, pain, family, friends, findom toys: lovense hush, handcuffs, gag, blindfold, dildo kik: paulwista

09-22-2023, 03:46 AM	#12745
Ghost1711 Distinguished Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 520 Blog Entries: 3	1. Roll a dice X the number of lines and that is how long slavery lasts 2. Slave starts a discord group, reports and sends proof of all tasks. Any poster may join so link must be posted in this thread. 3. Boomer decides how they sleep 4. Slaves are dolls as all clothes will be owned by boomer. Slave is nude unless boomer dresses his doll 5. showing face (in prof pics oder vid) cant be a limit 6. Slave can be promoted through an onlyfans account 7. Each 6 days slave must do a cam show of at least an hour with a script made by the boomer, boomer can invite both his friends and the slave's friends to watch 8. If slave is not available for a cam show on a given day, slave must do a full strip video outdoors __________________ Male crossdresser Likes and Limits: https://www.getdare.com/bbs/blog.php?b=90754 Kik: Ghostzombie92

10-09-2023, 07:47 AM	#12746
DomGer Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 8	1. Roll a dice X the number of lines and that is how long slavery lasts 2. Slave starts a discord group, reports and sends proof of all tasks. Any poster may join so link must be posted in this thread. 3. Boomer decides how they sleep 4. Slaves are dolls as all clothes will be owned by boomer. Slave is nude unless boomer dresses his doll 5. showing face (in prof pics oder vid) cant be a limit 6. Slave can be promoted through an onlyfans account 7. Each 6 days slave must do a cam show of at least an hour with a script made by the boomer, boomer can invite both his friends and the slave's friends to watch 8. If slave is not available for a cam show on a given day, slave must do a full strip video outdoors 9. Slave can delete up to 3 lines but each deleted line brings a punishment and 2 lines within limits chosen by boomer __________________ M 37 Kik domgergd Limits: Face, marks, scat, full public, family, info

10-09-2023, 08:11 AM	#12747
Ghost1711 Distinguished Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 520 Blog Entries: 3	1. Roll a dice X the number of lines and that is how long slavery lasts 2. Slave starts a discord group, reports and sends proof of all tasks. Any poster may join so link must be posted in this thread. 3. Boomer decides how they sleep 4. Slaves are dolls as all clothes will be owned by boomer. Slave is nude unless boomer dresses his doll 5. showing face (in prof pics oder vid) cant be a limit 6. Slave can be promoted through an onlyfans account 7. Each 6 days slave must do a cam show of at least an hour with a script made by the boomer, boomer can invite both his friends and the slave's friends to watch 8. If slave is not available for a cam show on a given day, slave must do a full strip video outdoors 9. Slave can delete up to 3 lines but each deleted line brings a punishment and 2 lines within limits chosen by boomer 10. Slave gets a new id, character etc. __________________ Male crossdresser Likes and Limits: https://www.getdare.com/bbs/blog.php?b=90754 Kik: Ghostzombie92

10-15-2023, 07:42 AM	#12748
lakerlife123 Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Fur Affinity Posts: 55 Blog Entries: 4	1. Roll a dice X the number of lines and that is how long slavery lasts 2. Slave starts a discord group, reports and sends proof of all tasks. Any poster may join so link must be posted in this thread. 3. Boomer decides how they sleep 4. Slaves are dolls as all clothes will be owned by boomer. Slave is nude unless boomer dresses his doll 5. showing face (in prof pics oder vid) cant be a limit 6. Slave can be promoted through an onlyfans account 7. Each 6 days slave must do a cam show of at least an hour with a script made by the boomer, boomer can invite both his friends and the slave's friends to watch 8. If slave is not available for a cam show on a given day, slave must do a full strip video outdoors 9. Slave can delete up to 3 lines but each deleted line brings a punishment and 2 lines within limits chosen by boomer 10. Slave gets a new id, character etc. 11. Boomer can control slave's cell phone wallpaper and lock screen for the duration __________________ 26/non-binary/sub/bottom Kik: lakerlife1234 Likes: Dares, Challenges, Mild Public, Humiliation, Sissy/Crossdressing, Pain, Feet, Shaving, Underwear, PetPlay, Dice Dares, ABDL, Messenger Games, Toilet Control, Messy Limits: Blood, Vomiting, Public, Family, Scat, Heavy CBT Go to this thread to challenge other users at Pokemon Showdown in high stakes wagers Mama/Pet Foxy IM A BIG ADORABLE CRYBABY, PLEASE REMIND ME OF IT

10-15-2023, 08:06 AM	#12749
Ghost1711 Distinguished Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 520 Blog Entries: 3	1. Roll a dice X the number of lines and that is how long slavery lasts 2. Slave starts a discord group, reports and sends proof of all tasks. Any poster may join so link must be posted in this thread. 3. Boomer decides how they sleep 4. Slaves are dolls as all clothes will be owned by boomer. Slave is nude unless boomer dresses his doll 5. showing face (in prof pics oder vid) cant be a limit 6. Slave can be promoted through an onlyfans account 7. Each 6 days slave must do a cam show of at least an hour with a script made by the boomer, boomer can invite both his friends and the slave's friends to watch 8. If slave is not available for a cam show on a given day, slave must do a full strip video outdoors 9. Slave can delete up to 3 lines but each deleted line brings a punishment and 2 lines within limits chosen by boomer 10. Slave gets a new id, character etc. 11. Boomer can control slave's cell phone wallpaper and lock screen for the duration 12. Boomer can do teamviewer session on slaves pc if within limits __________________ Male crossdresser Likes and Limits: https://www.getdare.com/bbs/blog.php?b=90754 Kik: Ghostzombie92

10-15-2023, 08:30 AM	#12750
slaveforall23 Member Join Date: May 2021 Posts: 88 Blog Entries: 2	1. Roll a dice X the number of lines and that is how long slavery lasts 2. Slave starts a discord group, reports and sends proof of all tasks. Any poster may join so link must be posted in this thread. 3. Boomer decides how they sleep 4. Slaves are dolls as all clothes will be owned by boomer. Slave is nude unless boomer dresses his doll 5. showing face (in prof pics oder vid) cant be a limit 6. Slave can be promoted through an onlyfans account 7. Each 6 days slave must do a cam show of at least an hour with a script made by the boomer, boomer can invite both his friends and the slave's friends to watch 8. If slave is not available for a cam show on a given day, slave must do a full strip video outdoors 9. Slave can delete up to 3 lines but each deleted line brings a punishment and 2 lines within limits chosen by boomer 10. Slave gets a new id, character etc. 11. Boomer can control slave's cell phone wallpaper and lock screen for the duration 12. Boomer can do teamviewer session on slaves pc if within limits 13. slave can delete line but as a result get 2 others __________________ 24 male likes: humiliation, hidden public, petplay, and new to cross dress and sissy things limits: nothing illegal, no toilet play (piss and poo), nothing too public, and nothing messy in general. dick size hard: 16cm soft: 6cm