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03-23-2018, 05:50 AM | #1 |
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GDPR Art. 17 Right to Erasure compliance?
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From may 25 all EU citizens get the right to erasure if they give up their consent, so all EU citizens may ask to remove their account completely from getDare while being legally backed up. How will getDare comply with this? (This is not even taking into account other rules of the GDPR which for example state that all user data has to be encrypted at all times, so no SSL means the website is in violation and could face a fee of €20 million) Last edited by Iwon8; 03-23-2018 at 06:03 AM. |
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03-23-2018, 07:35 AM | #2 |
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That is actually an excellent question.
GetDare have been refusing to add SSL to their site for some time, along with other most important things. Let's hope they do it now once for all, now that they will be fined severely if they don't. Once they add it for EU citizens, it would literally mean that they would need to put in extra effort to give that protection only to EU citizens, so they would simply add it for everybody... As Fred Flingstone used to say: Ya bba dabba doooooooooo!!! While they are at it, can they please modify their vBulletin skin so that it is mobile friendly? That is the other major improvement that this site BADLY needs.
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03-23-2018, 02:02 PM | #3 | ||
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- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I am neither a lawyer nor someone who has dealt with legal stuff before but I took a closer look at the GDPR and found out that getDare is not applicable to this data protection regulation of the European Union. I hope that I have understood the GDPR document right and in order to avoid a mistake or confusion, I'll go through how I came to understand all this. Please correct me if I made a wrong turn somewhere. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - At first, I read about GDPR in the media but like most media websites, it's way too vague. Writing that it's an EU law but it applies to 'most' websites based outside the EU as well. So instead of trying to find information about whether forums must comply with these data protection regulations as well, I decided to actually read the GDPR. No idea where I had to begin but once I opened the document, it was pretty obvious that I had to read article 3: territorial scope, under general provisions. (bold added) Source: https://gdpr-info.eu/ Quote:
Article 3.2a - getDare offers not goods but services, including to EU data subjects that decide to register on the entirely US-based website forum called (you guessed it!) getDare. Article 3.2b - getDare does not monitor EU data subjects' behaviour. Article 3.3 - Member State law applies not to the USA. The only thing to determine in order to know whether getDare is applicable to GDPR, is to see if getDare is applicable to article 3.2a (applicable to be applicable? I guess so). So we go to Recital 23 which states the following. Quote:
² getDare is only applicable to the GDPR if it is apparent that getDare envisages offering services to EU data subjects. ³ getDare's accessibility to an e-mail address or other contact details (of EU data subject), or the use of the third countries language (= USA --> English), is insufficient to show intentions to target EU data subjects with getDare's service. Factors such as the usage of an EU-Member State's language or currency to offer getDare's services, or mentioning of users who are in the EU, may make it apparent that getDare envisages offering services to EU data subjects. So by these definitions on whether getDare is applicable to article 3.2a, thus the GDPR; getDare is not applicable. Neither have I seen getDare use languages or currencies of an EU-Member States nor the mentioning of users who are in the EU. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - And just to clarify, if you ask a mod nicely and give a reason as to why you want certain posts to be deleted then a mod will do it for you. Or at the very least, I will do it for you provided it doesn't damage the other content on getDare. Don't delete great dares or create big holes in threads.
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03-24-2018, 02:00 PM | #4 |
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Isn't GetDare itself a service, RiskyFlame? Don't you provide us with the service of contacting and communicating with each other?
If this you consider the website a service, according to article 2, paragraph 2, point B, GetDare does qualify.
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03-24-2018, 03:21 PM | #5 | |||
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Then you might think: what about taking decisions concerning EU data subjects using processing techniques which consist of profiling a natural person? A getDare moderator or administrator is but a member of getDare and not employed by getDare. As I said, I am rarely in touch with legal documents and don't know much about the laws on topics such as these but shouldn't gD mods and admins be employed to be a part of getDare? To be paid or at the very least, receive a compensation for the work. Honestly, I wouldn't know whether, by law, getDare mods and administrators are part of getDare. If they are part of getDare then I guess the GDPR applies to getDare (still not entirely sure). If it's not part of getDare then the GDPR doesn't apply to getDare, right? Quote:
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03-24-2018, 04:32 PM | #6 | |
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03-24-2018, 06:35 PM | #7 |
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The key point here is whether getDare and its administrators are outside the EU.
If both the website and the administrators are outside the EU, then whether they fulfil the requirements laid in European law is irrelevant. Even if they go against European law, they wouldn't be prosecuted for that. European law applies in Europe, not abroad. Technically, I imagine they could be liable to extradition, but that would be extremely unlikely. Even ignoring all the legal and political requirements involving a citizen's extradition, no judge in any EU member state is ever going to request extradition of a forum's administrators simply because they refused to delete someone's posts in a forum. That's a lot of work and something they only do for serious crimes.
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