degrading ya slave

talla · 03-23-2008, 05:01 PM

ok how the hell do u degrade ya slave when they have so many limts like nothen to painful, no piss nothen to messy, no poo and they r limted to what they can use

Davros · 03-23-2008, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tallangatta77

ok how the hell do u degrade ya slave when they have so many limts like nothen to painful, no piss nothen to messy, no poo and they r limted to what they can use

Never mind "degrade"... more like "disown"... if a slave has a pathetic amount of limits, it's hardly "giving themselves over to a Master" in the first place.

userben · 03-23-2008, 08:08 PM

one word mental. use words to make the feel worthless so basically i think of degrading people it two ways physical and mentally ok thats more then one

lucky · 03-24-2008, 03:57 PM

Is it hard to humiliate someone? First use a nickname for the slave, you can use a dog name, or something you are sure the slave dislikes. And use the name even in public. No one places a limit about talking and the master would have his fun until the slave would do anything not to be humiliated any more like this.

Merlin · 03-25-2008, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tallangatta77

ok how the hell do u degrade ya slave when they have so many limts like nothen to painful, no piss nothen to messy, no poo and they r limted to what they can use

If you really have an interest to degrade someone then you should be able to think of things for yourself ! ...
Still a few things that come to my mind ...
1. Always looking down not in the eyes of the Master
2. Speaking only if asked
3. Sitting on the floor and not on a chair
4. Wearing ugly/saggy clothes
...
and i could add a lot more

Bandit|Queen · 04-01-2008, 09:45 AM

Okies I'm not a fan of degredation or harsh humiliation it makes me feel bad about myself after it has finished to the point where I get depressed. So I'd just like to add that if you are going to do any of what people have suggested then remember that some after care is good

Gine them a hug atleast so they know they are worth your while, no subbie should be considered worthless (end of mummy mode). A subtle thing to do would be to take their money phone and bag etc away when you go out, that way you have total controll over how their money is spent etc. Like being a kid again really and having to ask for some money.

I agree with Merlin with the having to keep their eyes down and only speeking when spoken too, again subtle and really puts the subbie in "their place". But I dont think that should be a perminant thing just something randomly done as I think this would make it stand out more and be more "degrading".

TheDomInMe · 04-03-2008, 03:42 AM

"Okies I'm not a fan of degredation or harsh humiliation it makes me feel bad about myself after it has finished to the point where I get depressed."

This is the danger of degradation. Humiliation can/should be used to express the master's power over the sub. The sub's commitment to performing the humiliating task lowers their resistance by submitting to the will of the master yet, at the same time, doing so builds them up by letting the sub unleash her submissive side. In this way, the master builds up his sub while bringing her resistance/will down. The danger of degradation is that repeated degradation over a long period of time without a measure of control can scar the sub and reverse the process of building up by tearing down. Instead the cycle becomes breaking down by tearing down. I have learned from other experienced doms that degradation is often better suited for the bedroom and used in limited circumstances. Most have seen how a sub can be wildly turned on be being called "a worthless whore" in the bedroom once or twice, but imagine if you called her that all day everyday for months on end. The effect won't be seen immediately or even after a day or two, but a few months down the line. Humiliation can be used often - degradation with caution.

MstDynamic · 04-03-2008, 05:10 AM

Knowing a RL Mistress, she has a male sub/slave, he like's in ways to crossdress in all the finer things of lingerie, so putting him into panties/bra's etc, did in a way humilite him, but also excited him too, so She put him in the old fashioned bloomers when at times extra was needed. He confessed that this did more to humiliate him, and hated when he had to wear them, and was within limits.

It does take thought and talking together to expand both minds alike

Bandit|Queen · 04-06-2008, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDomInMe

This is the danger of degradation. Humiliation can/should be used to express the master's power over the sub. The sub's commitment to performing the humiliating task lowers their resistance by submitting to the will of the master yet, at the same time, doing so builds them up by letting the sub unleash her submissive side.

I personally feel that there are much more affective ways to make a subbie feel their submission for instance I have to wear my collar to bed every night. This makes me aware of my submission to my Master even though he is not there. I don't personally need to be degraded or humiliated to submit to my Master I know my place because of the subtle things he does like the tone of voice he takes with me if I don't do as he says or that I am restricted on certain things. But I do agree that humiliation and degredation are different things.

Sum · 04-06-2008, 10:16 AM

I must say i hate the word degradation. Why would a Master want to degrade their submissive/slave. I believe, that a Master has a duty of care over their submissive/slave.

This is an interesting article, which i may have linked to previously on the subject; http://www.thescreamergirl.com/ehd.htm

It's very much worth a read in my opinion.

I would never degrade my little one, embarrass, always, humiliate from time to time, but degrade, the idea actually makes me feel slightly ill.

TheDomInMe · 04-06-2008, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tempered_sugar

I personally feel that there are much more affective ways to make a subbie feel their submission for instance I have to wear my collar to bed every night. This makes me aware of my submission to my Master even though he is not there. I don't personally need to be degraded or humiliated to submit to my Master I know my place because of the subtle things he does like the tone of voice he takes with me if I don't do as he says or that I am restricted on certain things. But I do agree that humiliation and degredation are different things.

Yes, humiliation, if desired by both Master and Slave, is just another tool in the Master's toolbox. It certainly is not the only tool to exert his/her power. Structure, rules, standing orders, rituals, amongst other things can also exert the Master's power and provide the Slave with a means to express his/her submission.

03-23-2008, 05:01 PM	#1
talla getDare Sweetheart Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 442	degrading ya slave ok how the hell do u degrade ya slave when they have so many limts like nothen to painful, no piss nothen to messy, no poo and they r limted to what they can use

03-23-2008, 08:08 PM	#3
userben getDare Sweetheart Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: iowa Posts: 461	one word mental. use words to make the feel worthless so basically i think of degrading people it two ways physical and mentally ok thats more then one __________________ "every where i go it seems like i'm going in the wrong way and i need to turn around and start over"

04-01-2008, 09:45 AM	#6
Bandit\|Queen getDare Sweetheart Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 414 Blog Entries: 2	Okies I'm not a fan of degredation or harsh humiliation it makes me feel bad about myself after it has finished to the point where I get depressed. So I'd just like to add that if you are going to do any of what people have suggested then remember that some after care is good Gine them a hug atleast so they know they are worth your while, no subbie should be considered worthless (end of mummy mode). A subtle thing to do would be to take their money phone and bag etc away when you go out, that way you have total controll over how their money is spent etc. Like being a kid again really and having to ask for some money. I agree with Merlin with the having to keep their eyes down and only speeking when spoken too, again subtle and really puts the subbie in "their place". But I dont think that should be a perminant thing just something randomly done as I think this would make it stand out more and be more "degrading". __________________ Have fun all! Love you my smooch!

04-03-2008, 05:10 AM	#8
MstDynamic Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 176	Knowing a RL Mistress, she has a male sub/slave, he like's in ways to crossdress in all the finer things of lingerie, so putting him into panties/bra's etc, did in a way humilite him, but also excited him too, so She put him in the old fashioned bloomers when at times extra was needed. He confessed that this did more to humiliate him, and hated when he had to wear them, and was within limits. It does take thought and talking together to expand both minds alike __________________ Dynamic is the one word that sums it all up Add me on kik mstdynamic

04-06-2008, 10:16 AM	#10
Sum getDare Devil Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,049 Blog Entries: 9	I must say i hate the word degradation. Why would a Master want to degrade their submissive/slave. I believe, that a Master has a duty of care over their submissive/slave. This is an interesting article, which i may have linked to previously on the subject; http://www.thescreamergirl.com/ehd.htm It's very much worth a read in my opinion. I would never degrade my little one, embarrass, always, humiliate from time to time, but degrade, the idea actually makes me feel slightly ill. __________________ Through the darkness of futures past The magician longs to see One chants out between two worlds Fire walk with me I'm off to kinktalk. Bye all.

03-24-2008, 03:57 PM	#4
lucky Account Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 558	Is it hard to humiliate someone? First use a nickname for the slave, you can use a dog name, or something you are sure the slave dislikes. And use the name even in public. No one places a limit about talking and the master would have his fun until the slave would do anything not to be humiliated any more like this.

04-03-2008, 03:42 AM	#7
TheDomInMe Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Paris, France Posts: 9	"Okies I'm not a fan of degredation or harsh humiliation it makes me feel bad about myself after it has finished to the point where I get depressed." This is the danger of degradation. Humiliation can/should be used to express the master's power over the sub. The sub's commitment to performing the humiliating task lowers their resistance by submitting to the will of the master yet, at the same time, doing so builds them up by letting the sub unleash her submissive side. In this way, the master builds up his sub while bringing her resistance/will down. The danger of degradation is that repeated degradation over a long period of time without a measure of control can scar the sub and reverse the process of building up by tearing down. Instead the cycle becomes breaking down by tearing down. I have learned from other experienced doms that degradation is often better suited for the bedroom and used in limited circumstances. Most have seen how a sub can be wildly turned on be being called "a worthless whore" in the bedroom once or twice, but imagine if you called her that all day everyday for months on end. The effect won't be seen immediately or even after a day or two, but a few months down the line. Humiliation can be used often - degradation with caution.