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Old 04-19-2015, 04:55 AM   #1
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Question Where's the limit?

Hi everyone!

Not very long ago I was surfing GD and I came across this thread where a guy asked for dares. He said that he had a female roommate and one of his biggest fetishes (and the one about he was asking the dares) was cumming on her roommate’s stuff. Of course she wasn’t aware of this activity at all, and he was asking for tasks that could be performed quite discreetly.

The thing is that all of the responses to the thread where quite negative, meaning that people condemned this behavior for being unethical, so I thought that was beyond the limit for most of the people. So that got me thinking for a while and I remembered other “fetishes” or “likes” that involved other people. For instance, there are many people here that enjoy flashing their boobs, ass, cock, pussy… whatever to other random people and this has a great acceptance within the community, even though it means involving other people too. Or there was this girl who wanted to have a master online to control her real life relationships with other guys (whether go out with them or not, whether have sex or not, kind of sex…). This involved other people as well!

In my mind the limit has always been the other people’s freedom, meaning that I have the freedom to do whatever I want always that I don’t violate other people’s freedom. Anything consensual is not unethical to me. But after bumping into this dilemma and thinking about it a bit deeper I ask myself: What’s freedom? Where’s the limit? I don’t have the answer, I’m still trying to figure it out, but I’d love to hear what you guys think about it.

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Old 04-19-2015, 05:01 AM   #2
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I think that the majority of GetDare limit is pretty much what you've said, cumming on other peoples stuff - when they don't know is definitely unethical. But I think, because of the fact that he was soiling her belongings, that's why it had a negative response from the GetDare community. Whereas, controlling other peoples sex lives, that is more - "widely accepted?"

For me, I wouldn't give people dares that I thought were unethical, such as the cumming on roommates belongings, but I would quite happily have my life controlled, or control someone else's.

I guess the boundaries of each person are different, everyone's brains will be "wired" slightly differently. But I see where you are coming from, definitely correct.

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Old 04-19-2015, 05:14 AM   #3
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I think anything that could have a negative impact on other people against their consent shouldn't be done. For me, flashing is too far for that reason because other people might feel embarrassed, violated, even scared that you might do something more and stop them visiting that place again or going out alone at night etc. You really have to think of how things could affect people.


I have been tempted to do dares that involve me sending anonymous nudes to people I know but never went through with it, partly because of how it could impact the other person.
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Old 04-19-2015, 05:19 AM   #4
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I think anything that could have a negative impact on other people against their consent shouldn't be done. For me, flashing is too far for that reason because other people might feel embarrassed, violated, even scared that you might do something more and stop them visiting that place again or going out alone at night etc. You really have to think of how things could affect people.
That sums up my feelings about it in a nutshell. If its affecting people who do not give consent its going to far in my opinion.
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Old 04-19-2015, 03:36 PM   #5
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I do think it is too far if it is involving other people who haven't consented. I also think for the most part the community here is good about that, but I think sometimes all it takes is one person speaking up? Like if someone speaks up then other people realize it.

I do see a slew of "public" dares that to me are not okay, because flashing yourself, or saying something lude to other people who have not consented is not only rude, but could possibly also hurt other people.

The girl wanting someone else to control her sex life is different too, I guess it depends on how far they take it and how honest she is with the guys that are involved?

There is another kind of public that to me takes things too far, and that is when the person doing the dare or task is putting themselves at risk of bodily harm, STD's, pregnancy, rape, or long-term emotional damage. Often those dares involve the public in some way also, and I definitely think they go over the line.

I like it when people speak up and condemn the actions that involve other people who haven't consented, I applaud those people for sure!
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Old 04-19-2015, 04:26 PM   #6
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I completely agree, in my opinion there is and should be a line of acceptability and I feel that line is dictated by that simple thing of consent. The human mind is a powerful tool and it douse not take much to cause a huge scar in it.

In my personal experience I first started to transition between 5 - 7 years old, I was not deliberately transitioning I just knew I wanted my nails painted and to wear pretty dresses and I wanted to be called at the time Mia, I knew that was who I was. That all ended very abruptly when in a 35 minute conversation with my birth giver her partner and her partners mother convinced me I would be bullied and made it clear they would never accept it as I was "A Boy and should do boy things" so I hid and concealed myself and suffered years of depression and self loathing now at 26 years old I am only just picking up the pieces of that damage from a in compression very small section of my life.

So in my opinion consent is always key as without it even the smallest of things can do untold damage that could take years to heal from, I would also second Happy Me's example of public dares that can quickly go to far with real consequences such as bodily harm etc. it is always important to have that one person who is prepared to stand up and say have you considered this angle.

That is my opinion any way.
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