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Not quite a safeword...
Kid, I think maybe you are describing the need to know the difference between, (my choice of words): "limits" of various degrees and the "do not exceed" line -- and how important it is to recognize that difference.
(Edited to remove duplication of phrases.)Posted 01-31-2017 at 09:58 AM by MarvHarvey
Updated 01-31-2017 at 10:32 AM by MarvHarvey -
Not quite a safeword...
Quote:I wanted to wait with my reaction until your game was fully over becaus I did not want to spoil the fun on that. Let me be very clear,.. I have absolutely no criticism on your play. I am fully confident that you have played it with respect an safety. I did read the reports and they show you did. So...... not criticism on your play.
However,...
I strongly disagree in advising this to others, especially towards inexperienced people or fresh relationships. In fact this play is completely contradictive to the plea I made for doms "to avoid driving until the safeword got used" >>here<<. I see a great danger, experienced people will know how to handle that, but I am afraid of starting people. The interrogation setup drives the dom into more pushing than normal. It has the risk of "excusing" him for being cautious, it has the risk that he will use the setup to feel allowed to push until the sub confesses. At the same time,.. sure the sub will have this confession as some sort of safeword, but while normally we assure our subs to feel comfortable and positive about using his/her safeword, this scene will drive her into delaying the use. She now gets a negative association with the confession/safeword. If she uses it, she will feel bad for failing the interrogation, This may drive her into letting happen far more than she will later feel comfortable with.
So,.. no,.. i strongly advice against an interrogation,
Having said that,... the scenario is hot. Sure,.. very hot.
I discussed it briefly with my pet. My pet was arroused but also afraid, she was convinced she would only confess when I would go for her limits. For above reasons i had already decided not to play this game. If I would have decided to play, I am sure my pet would have played (she trusts me), but it would have been a disaster. Either I would have pushed my pet into confession which then would have been realized by a far over-the-limit interrogation. Most likely I would have unrepairable loss of trust afterwards. Alternatively i would have stopped which would have been a dent in my strict reputation.
But.... some unlucky circumstance turned into an opportunity.
My pet was ill, she had an infection and was really unable to play. Of course however, she got utterly bored and horny form doing nothing. We were chatting at an evening and i asked her how many orgasms she had had that day (for reason of illness her orgasm-restriction was lifted), but she did not want to say.
As we had just read your interrogation-blog she asked "what I would do to her" to get that number. So I let her imagine to get tortured in some interrogation setup. In fact we "did" the interrogation you proposed, but not for real, fantasy only.
We both went very serious in that fantasy. I tortured her, and at the end she confessed. Strangely enough this ended up in being an extremely hot session.
I was able to torture her without having to be afraid about pushing too far. She was enjoying a fantasy that went further than she would be able to handle for real. She had always been curious towards how far I would feel comfortable to push her. Now she could experience. She got thrilled by the push she got,.. and at the end she really wanted to confess. She simply could not stand getting an other even further torturing message from me.
After the play we talked (just like we always do after a real session). We quickly agreed we were both completely insane, but also both had experienced the whole thing as very hot.
You're right, inexperienced Doms, subs, Masters, Mistresses, and slaves may go wrong with this. However, the only way to get experience on something is to do it.
So yeah, I vote if you're curious and know your sub/slave.
But, I do agree, don't do this in a fresh relationship. Especially since your goal is to get a safe word. In a scene like this, the Dom has to be aware.
And know when they went to far. Cause in a scene like this, a sub can go way past their limits and regret it later. Know your sub.
In a scene like this, the Dom can stop it if they think the sub has had enough but there's no garuntee the sub will as they may be holding out in order to not disappoint their Dom.
So I wouldn't recommend this for fresh relationships. This can go too far fast if you do not know your partner.
I don't think it excuses the Dom from being cautious. I think it gives the Dom no excuse to not be cautious. Even though this scene technically has a safe word, it needs to be treated as if there are no safewords.
Because the subs goal is not to use it (which is always the goal but usually for both parties). This has the added risk factor as the sub will go past limits and the Dom has to be careful not to take it to far.
And the Dom has to keep in mind what the sub can't do under any circumstances (like I'm sure AM wouldn't tell IceMadien to strip in front of her child), that's too far even in a scene like this.
And he wouldn't tell Heart to have sex with 10 strangers in ten minutes.
This is too far even in a scene like this. This is why parties need to know each other. One to know everyone involved is sane. Two, so the Dom knows what limits he can't go past. There is a limit even without limits as AM has said before.
And I also believe sessions like this do need more aftercare than normal.
So I don't find it dangerous, I find it a huge display of trust.
But if AM was a stranger to them both, then I would have different feelings about it. Same if I thought he was crazy.Posted 01-31-2017 at 09:37 AM by LitDarkness -
Not quite a safeword...
I wanted to wait with my reaction until your game was fully over becaus I did not want to spoil the fun on that. Let me be very clear,.. I have absolutely no criticism on your play. I am fully confident that you have played it with respect an safety. I did read the reports and they show you did. So...... not criticism on your play.
However,...
I strongly disagree in advising this to others, especially towards inexperienced people or fresh relationships. In fact this play is completely contradictive to the plea I made for doms "to avoid driving until the safeword got used" >>here<<. I see a great danger, experienced people will know how to handle that, but I am afraid of starting people. The interrogation setup drives the dom into more pushing than normal. It has the risk of "excusing" him for being cautious, it has the risk that he will use the setup to feel allowed to push until the sub confesses. At the same time,.. sure the sub will have this confession as some sort of safeword, but while normally we assure our subs to feel comfortable and positive about using his/her safeword, this scene will drive her into delaying the use. She now gets a negative association with the confession/safeword. If she uses it, she will feel bad for failing the interrogation, This may drive her into letting happen far more than she will later feel comfortable with.
So,.. no,.. i strongly advice against an interrogation,
Having said that,... the scenario is hot. Sure,.. very hot.
I discussed it briefly with my pet. My pet was arroused but also afraid, she was convinced she would only confess when I would go for her limits. For above reasons i had already decided not to play this game. If I would have decided to play, I am sure my pet would have played (she trusts me), but it would have been a disaster. Either I would have pushed my pet into confession which then would have been realized by a far over-the-limit interrogation. Most likely I would have unrepairable loss of trust afterwards. Alternatively i would have stopped which would have been a dent in my strict reputation.
But.... some unlucky circumstance turned into an opportunity.
My pet was ill, she had an infection and was really unable to play. Of course however, she got utterly bored and horny form doing nothing. We were chatting at an evening and i asked her how many orgasms she had had that day (for reason of illness her orgasm-restriction was lifted), but she did not want to say.
As we had just read your interrogation-blog she asked "what I would do to her" to get that number. So I let her imagine to get tortured in some interrogation setup. In fact we "did" the interrogation you proposed, but not for real, fantasy only.
We both went very serious in that fantasy. I tortured her, and at the end she confessed. Strangely enough this ended up in being an extremely hot session.
I was able to torture her without having to be afraid about pushing too far. She was enjoying a fantasy that went further than she would be able to handle for real. She had always been curious towards how far I would feel comfortable to push her. Now she could experience. She got thrilled by the push she got,.. and at the end she really wanted to confess. She simply could not stand getting an other even further torturing message from me.
After the play we talked (just like we always do after a real session). We quickly agreed we were both completely insane, but also both had experienced the whole thing as very hot.Posted 01-31-2017 at 07:26 AM by sir sam -
Posted 01-05-2017 at 06:39 AM by Butterfly -
Good girl
Oh hell yes!
I say "good girl" (braaf in dutch) fo my pet 100x per day.
Alike you say... She is! She is never disobedient. She litterally always serves me. She has her problems with rules,... But those are mistakes that can be healed.
She is just a real good pet. At least 100x per day.
@icemaiden,
I hope you allow me as "not being your dom", but,.... I really would like to say to you: "shutup and listen to what he just told you"Posted 01-04-2017 at 05:08 PM by sir sam -
Good girl
Brats, us? I don't know what you mean! Of course we are always good!
Why would I want to be bad? That would make you unhappy and me unhappy in turn. I like making you happy lots and often.
But you are a still a douche.Posted 01-04-2017 at 04:51 PM by IceMaiden -
Posted 01-02-2017 at 04:26 AM by AbusiveMaster -
Out with the old, in with the new.
Hey!!! I'm not a little creature! I'll just hide away so no one can find me now haha. And trees and dogs are scary! So there.
Okay, aside from you being mean to me, I was quite pleasantly surprised to be mentioned so thankyou . And I had a fun time too in what little time I did sub to you .
I wish you all the best for the coming year, and I want allll the details when you and Icey meet!!! Every.single.last.one. hahaha.
Happy New YearPosted 01-01-2017 at 06:15 PM by FrozenWolfGirl -
Out with the old, in with the new.
Bravo for surviving 2016. It wasn't easy, but I'm so glad you both made it through, together and in love. I wish both you and Frosty, and all those you hold dear, the most fantastic 2017.Posted 12-31-2016 at 10:41 PM by naughtylittlegirl -
Out with the old, in with the new.
Of course you're not replacing me, you are stuck with me. Forever.
Silly you there's no need to thank me- that's what we do, be there for each other through good and bad. And I always will be here you know I'm not the type to run at the sign of trouble- especially when I love someone so very much.
I do want a dragon! And let go of the unicorn! Kicking and screaming, really? I can't waaaaait it's going to be perfect being with you.
Oh I can't wait to see Sophie's reaction to this and you are forbidden from breaking Aimee.
I apply in writing and expect to find this information on Skype in the morning.
I love you. Entirely. <3 <3 <3Posted 12-31-2016 at 05:33 PM by IceMaiden -
Out with the old, in with the new.
You did a very good job surviving. I'm proud of you.
You have got me thinking that maybe I need to find myself a Sophia. Does anyone know where one might be able to find one?Posted 12-31-2016 at 03:45 PM by Princess.Ashley -
Out with the old, in with the new.
I had asked for a puppy for Christmas but maybe I should have asked for a Sophia. Asslvr needs practice training anyways.
I am glad you survived 2016 and I wish you the very best in 2017!Posted 12-31-2016 at 03:33 PM by Butterfly
Updated 12-31-2016 at 03:50 PM by Butterfly -
Posted 12-31-2016 at 03:23 PM by Heart -
Not quite a safeword...
Quote:I know for a fact that under normal circumstances, both girls would have stopped long before they did during this challenge. I know for a fact both girls wanted to stop long before they did.
I'd have stopped about 10 seconds into attaching pegs. The first round wasn't so bad that I actively wanted to give you the number until nearing the end.
But the second round..YOU SUCK.
So ling as safety always comes first, pushing to that degree can be a LOT of fun, and so long as the sub enjoys the challenge and knows it is a game, I strongly advocate actvely trying to force a safeword from your submissive. It isn't as easy as it looks.
What I also found interesting is that under 'normal circumstances' I don't think I could have lasted that long/pushed myself that much with round two. Obviously I now know I can but if it hadn't have been done under these circumstances I 100% believe that I would have given up within minutes. I suppose this could be psychological.
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Quote:Asslvr and I have done an interrogation scene very similar. We had 3 rounds and each round he had to force the correct number out of me in order to get me to safeword. I too am stubborn and was pushed a lot further than I normally would have gone otherwise. And actually the same for Asslvr. He is usually a very gentle and caring dom rather than wanting to push me so far, and it was a nice change for a scene. Ultimately, we were both aware that it was a game and that it could stop at anytime if something went wrong or too far, and of course we are always as safe as we can be, so it was great fun!
I hope you three continue to enjoy your interrogation.
I think we're all just stubborn brats. And thank yoouu <3
Posted 11-25-2016 at 06:04 AM by IceMaiden -
Posted 11-23-2016 at 05:23 PM by Heart -
Posted 11-23-2016 at 04:32 PM by Butterfly -
Not quite a safeword...
Hmm.
I'll be back to comment properly after Heart has done her next round and I can talk about both attempts of my round two properly.Posted 11-23-2016 at 04:21 PM by IceMaiden -
Not quite a safeword...
Well, you definitely got me thinking. Already a great thankyou for this blog for that reason alone.
I definitely want to reply but in order not to spoil your thread i will do after hearty completed her sessionsPosted 11-23-2016 at 08:45 AM by sir stefan -
Not quite a safeword...
Asslvr and I have done an interrogation scene very similar. We had 3 rounds and each round he had to force the correct number out of me in order to get me to safeword. I too am stubborn and was pushed a lot further than I normally would have gone otherwise. And actually the same for Asslvr. He is usually a very gentle and caring dom rather than wanting to push me so far, and it was a nice change for a scene. Ultimately, we were both aware that it was a game and that it could stop at anytime if something went wrong or too far, and of course we are always as safe as we can be, so it was great fun!
I hope you three continue to enjoy your interrogation.Posted 11-23-2016 at 08:00 AM by Butterfly -
Not quite a safeword...
Sounds exciting. I enjoy having my resistance broken down and being forced to say humiliating things, this is similar. I'm curious if there are consequences of failure or if the disappointment of 'failure' is the consequence in and of itself.Posted 11-23-2016 at 04:47 AM by Alexis Rune -
Posted 11-15-2016 at 03:02 PM by AbusiveMaster -
Posted 11-15-2016 at 03:00 PM by IceMaiden -
Railroaded
Quote:Hehe love this. I was wondering and I hate a mystery so thank you for revealing that. I love how bratty the two of them can be, and as another bratty friend of IHeart, I know how fun it can be. I love that you compared yourself to the wizard .. although I would have pegged you as more of the wicked witch :PPosted 11-14-2016 at 01:45 PM by AbusiveMaster -
Posted 11-14-2016 at 10:29 AM by Heart -
Railroaded
Hehe love this. I was wondering and I hate a mystery so thank you for revealing that. I love how bratty the two of them can be, and as another bratty friend of IHeart, I know how fun it can be. I love that you compared yourself to the wizard .. although I would have pegged you as more of the wicked witch :PPosted 11-13-2016 at 07:27 PM by Butterfly