11-06-2009, 03:17 AM | #31 | |
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I have to go now, I will check in to the post later, maybe.
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Maybe you should consider if intolerance is the foundation of civilizations or a biproduct. Personally I measure the advance of a civilization by it's tolerance. Meanwhile you can go worship Taliban and the Third Reich. Quote:
It's illegal, in some countries yes, so is it for females to not cover their face in other countries. If you think laws are perfect representations of right and wrong I suggest you move to an ultra Islamic country where the law represents the word of God. It's a crime against nature, how? Like it's endangering the rain forest and ozone layer? Animal abuse, cruel and irresponsible, again, how? Cruel means with intent to harm. If that's what bestiality is to you, I think you got it wrong. As for non consent, that has already been addressed. Immoral, perverse, degrading and disgusting. Yes, that is after all what makes something wrong. Nothing but Nazi propaganda, literally. This was the excuse to kill millions of Jews, homosexuals and disabled people. But hey, that's what laws, society and culture dictated, so it had to be the right thing to do. Quote:
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One thing I think we can all agree with you on though is that it is wrong to do something for sexual gratification. Why? Did you read the post you're objecting to? It pretty clearly states that I'm not a zoophile. Why would express your hatred for trolls in the same line that you show complete disregard for what has actually been said. Maybe you're just trying to derail the discussion. I don't know.
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11-06-2009, 06:54 AM | #33 | |
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To clarify I was making a general statement NOT a statement against you or any specific individual. The thread topic is about bestiality and the question raised was in connection as to if posters consider it right or wrong. I made a clear statement as did others that I consider it wrong. I then gave further reasons to support my opinion. I am not attacking your beliefs and I expect you do the same with me. I am simply addressing the subject of the post. You are free to tender your opinion. However the thread has degraded into an attempted flame war and personal attacks on the views and opinions of specific individuals. I am not going to facilitate you with an argument in that respect. I have made a contribution and may again contribute further. You are at liberty to do the same if you have a point to make. To clarify I consider bestiality to be totally wrong and I have given reasons to suport my opinion. That is all this thread is really about. Nothing more.
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I'm not calling you on your opinion, which you of course are entitled to, but it's basis which seems like nothing more than excuses to discriminate against people who aren't as conservative as you. On a side note, the couple upstairs is having loud sex.
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11-06-2009, 09:01 AM | #35 | |
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All my reasons are valid because they are interconnected. The issue simply can’t be dismissed by breaking it down into dismissible components. Reasons why societies make moral and ethical laws are more complex than that. However the central issue is that bestiality devalues the human status by lowering the concentual expressions of person relationships to the state of instinctive animalistic behaviour solely for the purpose of sexual gratification. And don’t try to make a straw man argument by saying you can hump a table leg, that is not the same at all. However neither do I intend to change my conviction that bestiality is wrong or is an unhealthy practice for society in general. My suggestion is that you first state your opinion clearly with your reasons and stop trying to start a flame war.
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For your benefit I will simplify my answer to exactly match the criteria of the thread proposal. I think it is wrong and I’m not into it. Period. Unless of course you have some valid opinions and reasons to state yourself. P.S. Also I assume that you do know the difference between a discussion and a debate? Note: Do not feed the trolls.
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Are you even going to bother to contribute to the thread yourself by correctly stating your formatted input in accordance with the thread discussion topic? I am sorry but I have better things to do with my time than to engage in an endless and pointless debate with yourself, this is getting silly. I am simply contributing to a discussion, I have no time or desire for a debate of this nature.
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It's like me saying it's wrong to come to this site because it's immoral, perverted, cruel, irresponsible and degrading. Sure some of the reasons are blatantly wrong and others are irrelevant, but by your logic they don't have to be true or relevant, just interconnected. You can't have an expression, be it mathematical, logical or semantical, and claim that it's okay for all the parts to be wrong as long as they're interconnected. To wrongs do not make a right. Quote:
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As for "instinctive animalistic behavior solely for the purpose of sexual gratification." Sex is always animalistic behavior regardless of who or what you fuck. You can create a baby the scientific way by artificial semination or you can get one by doing like animals, fucking. The animalistic way. Quote:
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As for a clearly stated opinion, have you read anything I've written so far? I do NOT think bestiality is wrong, how is that anything but obvious? And for the reason, I've given it countless times before, now debunk it or accept it: It's not wrong since it doesn't cause any harm. It's based on a very simple home-brewed expression: An action is as wrong as the cumulative harm it causes. PS. I agree that reasons can be interconnected, but that doesn't change that each has to be true, valid and relevant. If not, anyone, like you, can just make up random invalid reasons and claim that combined they form a valid reason. Logic just doesn't work like that.
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11-06-2009, 11:24 AM | #42 | |
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Second point is that I was simply contributing to a discussion and I thought I made it clear several times that I do not want a debate on this subject with yourself or with 00infinity. I did think that that was clear from my posts. I don’t have the time for that and this is not a debate thread. Sorry.
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11-06-2009, 11:28 AM | #43 | |
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I myself am just trying to make the point that I don’t want a continued debate and neither do I want my posts misrepresented. There is a difference between a debate and a discussion.
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11-06-2009, 11:31 AM | #44 |
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If you don't want to continue it then stop posting and/or admit your points are invalid
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11-06-2009, 11:40 AM | #45 |
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Sorry no ultimatums. There is simply nothing for me to admit to anyway.
I have my own views as do you so lets simply agree to differ. Have a nice day.
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