Masters....

Insomnia · 12-22-2007, 11:58 PM

I've finally got around to asking this - it's taken a while. I'm sure it's something that's been discussed in the past somewhere, and I just haven't come across it.

Why are both male and females referred to as 'Masters' on this site, rather than females being 'Mistress'? I realise this is something that goes to the core of the site (Slave/Master section, the ads, etc), and doesn't affect me particularly as I'm not a female Master/Mistress (you choose your word of preference) or looking for one!

I am however intruiged, and the little sergeant-major in the back of my mind who tries to regulate my use of english screams every time I see it.

zeketheorc · 12-23-2007, 12:04 AM

I have found many references where females are referred to as mistresses on this site so I am not really sure what your talking about.

Merlin · 12-23-2007, 12:06 AM

I don't get it... Most "female Masters" refer them self as Mistresses here...
Whats the point? Do you want to name the "Master and Slave area" to "Master or Mistress and Slave area"?

(Sounds a little bit harder than intended...)

SubMissChievous · 12-23-2007, 12:09 AM

I've just checked, out of curiosity, and when filling out the form for posting in the M/s area there's no choice for it. So I assume that the terms "Master" or "Slave" are set automatically regardless of gender. I think it would be a nice improvement if such a distinction could be made. It would avoid some of the confusion that often happens with female masters addies...

Perhaps this thread could be moved to the suggestion zone as it sounds like a very valid & good one...

Merlin · 12-23-2007, 12:20 AM

I start to understand...

Quote:

Originally Posted by naughty_chloe

[...] It would avoid some of the confusion that often happens with female masters addies...[...]

Don't think that will help

Still, shouldn't be much work to do...
But Depp has to decide this

Insomnia · 12-23-2007, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naughty_chloe

So I assume that the terms "Master" or "Slave" are set automatically regardless of gender. I think it would be a nice improvement if such a distinction could be made. It would avoid some of the confusion that often happens with female masters addies...

That's what I was getting at - thank you for putting it so much more eloquently!

Quote:

Perhaps this thread could be moved to the suggestion zone as it sounds like a very valid & good one...

I forgot that existed! oops!

Davros · 12-23-2007, 03:31 AM

I see your point, but people forget that "Master" can refer to any gender.

Eg. "I am the master of everything" - It's not just male.

MasterO · 12-23-2007, 09:11 AM

For many millennium in most cultures the mere thought of a female ruling over a male would have been totally unheard of thus the association with the male gender. The term Mistress is also used as a woman in a mans sex life that is not his wife. A Master is some one who is served by the servant/slave irregardless of gender but throughout history has been primarily male.

Kitty · 12-23-2007, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterO

For many millennium in most cultures the mere thought of a female ruling over a male would have been totally unheard of thus the association with the male gender. The term Mistress is also used as a woman in a mans sex life that is not his wife. A Master is some one who is served by the servant/slave irregardless of gender but throughout history has been primarily male.

oh nice history. your a history teacher lol

Looking4somename · 12-24-2007, 10:46 AM

On the same note, why is the Slave/Master Area called as such?
It should be called "Master/slave Area" (after all, it's M/s - not S/M.)

Davros · 12-29-2007, 05:59 PM

Slave/Master just sounds better? It should be Slave < Master, meaning Masters dominate Slaves.

And you can also argue, why aint it Slave/Master/Mistress?

But I must argue that some "Mistresses" don't even refer to themselves as such, so "Master" is a good word for both genders.

Plus "Master" just keeps it all tidy.

Pikachu · 01-03-2008, 08:07 AM

Or we can have submissives and dominants? i mean that is what traditionally a slave/master/mistress relationship is called and it avoids all the sexism feminism side of things

depp · 01-03-2008, 11:04 PM

Since starting this site I have learned a great many things. I'll change the terminology in the next site update as well as add switches. Please be patient with me however.

12-22-2007, 11:58 PM	#1
Insomnia Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: UK Posts: 113 Blog Entries: 1	Masters.... I've finally got around to asking this - it's taken a while. I'm sure it's something that's been discussed in the past somewhere, and I just haven't come across it. Why are both male and females referred to as 'Masters' on this site, rather than females being 'Mistress'? I realise this is something that goes to the core of the site (Slave/Master section, the ads, etc), and doesn't affect me particularly as I'm not a female Master/Mistress (you choose your word of preference) or looking for one! I am however intruiged, and the little sergeant-major in the back of my mind who tries to regulate my use of english screams every time I see it. __________________ Yup, I'm evil...and proud of it Last edited by Insomnia; 12-22-2007 at 11:59 PM. Reason: speeling

12-23-2007, 12:06 AM	#3
Merlin Misschievous's Authority Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 1,552	I don't get it... Most "female Masters" refer them self as Mistresses here... Whats the point? Do you want to name the "Master and Slave area" to "Master or Mistress and Slave area"? (Sounds a little bit harder than intended...) __________________ Looking for female sub or couple (updated Version) Merlin's Magic Tower of Decision

12-23-2007, 09:11 AM	#8
MasterO Account Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: US Posts: 364	For many millennium in most cultures the mere thought of a female ruling over a male would have been totally unheard of thus the association with the male gender. The term Mistress is also used as a woman in a mans sex life that is not his wife. A Master is some one who is served by the servant/slave irregardless of gender but throughout history has been primarily male. __________________ MasterO Always looking for female dare slaves that are willing to do my dares and reply.

12-24-2007, 10:46 AM	#10
Looking4somename getDare Sweetheart Join Date: May 2007 Location: Right behind you. Posts: 275 Blog Entries: 3	On the same note, why is the Slave/Master Area called as such? It should be called "Master/slave Area" (after all, it's M/s - not S/M.) __________________ Some of them want to use you... "You know, these clothes do not fancy you at all. It should be a dress or nothing... I happen to have no dress in my cabin." (Captain Jack Sparrow) ...Some of the want to get used by you

01-03-2008, 08:07 AM	#12
Pikachu Distinguished Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 897 Blog Entries: 4	Or we can have submissives and dominants? i mean that is what traditionally a slave/master/mistress relationship is called and it avoids all the sexism feminism side of things __________________

12-23-2007, 12:04 AM	#2
zeketheorc Account Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 386 Blog Entries: 6	I have found many references where females are referred to as mistresses on this site so I am not really sure what your talking about.

12-23-2007, 12:09 AM	#4
SubMissChievous Prodigy Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 4,466	I've just checked, out of curiosity, and when filling out the form for posting in the M/s area there's no choice for it. So I assume that the terms "Master" or "Slave" are set automatically regardless of gender. I think it would be a nice improvement if such a distinction could be made. It would avoid some of the confusion that often happens with female masters addies... Perhaps this thread could be moved to the suggestion zone as it sounds like a very valid & good one...

12-23-2007, 03:31 AM	#7
Davros Account Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,943	I see your point, but people forget that "Master" can refer to any gender. Eg. "I am the master of everything" - It's not just male.

12-29-2007, 05:59 PM	#11
Davros Account Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,943	Slave/Master just sounds better? It should be Slave < Master, meaning Masters dominate Slaves. And you can also argue, why aint it Slave/Master/Mistress? But I must argue that some "Mistresses" don't even refer to themselves as such, so "Master" is a good word for both genders. Plus "Master" just keeps it all tidy.

01-03-2008, 11:04 PM	#13
depp SysOp Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Here, now Posts: 3,532 Blog Entries: 51	Since starting this site I have learned a great many things. I'll change the terminology in the next site update as well as add switches. Please be patient with me however. __________________ The border between the two isn't all that clear. I'll be able to enter it soon. In full range. Full motion. I'll translate myself into it.