consume your own cum - Page 2

BLiverpool · 06-16-2013, 04:11 PM

Do you find it very difficult to force yourself to do this right after orgasm even though you really wanted to do it before? If so are you ever able to do it anyway? Does it require a trick or special circumstances?

It can be hard...most of the time I've lost the urge once I've cum. SOmetimes I can do it though.

Was it immediately after orgasm or after some time?

Immediately after.

How many times more or less have you done it after full orgasm?

About 5 or 6 times.

How did you consume: cup, on food, etc..?

Licked off my fingers, licked off a table.

Have you ever tried to cum on a plate and lick it all off?

Not yet. I might though!

Did someone encourage, compel or force you to? In person or online?

A friend told me she'd love to see me do it so I did it on camera for her. Then she said she'd love to see me lick it off her tits. We met up and I wanked on her tits then licked it all off. That was horny!

AJFK · 06-18-2013, 01:19 AM

Do you find it very difficult to force yourself to do this right after orgasm even though you really wanted to do it before? If so are you ever able to do it anyway? Does it require a trick or special circumstances?

Not really...

Was it immediately after orgasm or after some time?

Immediately after.

How many times more or less have you done it after full orgasm?

About 3 or 4 times...

How did you consume: cup, on food, etc..?

i lick of my fingers...

Have you ever tried to cum on a plate and lick it all off?

Nope.

Did someone encourage, compel or force you to? In person or online?

No.

Alan2dare · 08-03-2013, 07:08 AM

Do you find it very difficult to force yourself to do this right after orgasm even though you really wanted to do it before? If so are you ever able to do it anyway? Does it require a trick or special circumstances? At first it was very hard to eat my own cum now tho I like it and can do without a second thought.

Was it immediately after orgasm or after some time? so far right after cumming

How many times more or less have you done it after full orgasm? many times now

How did you consume: cup, on food, etc..? out of a glass and right off of my hand

Have you ever tried to cum on a plate and lick it all off? not yet I will have to try it

Did someone encourage, compel or force you to? In person or online? yes online many times I would love to in person soon

IrishLad89 · 08-04-2013, 05:26 AM

Do you find it very difficult to force yourself to do this right after orgasm even though you really wanted to do it before? If so are you ever able to do it anyway? Does it require a trick or special circumstances?

I find it very difficult to do it after orgasm. Sometimes just the thought of eating it can do me for a whole masturbation session but as soon as I then have the chance, I can't. As a result, I have only consumed 1 load. Lots of precum but only the one whole load.

Was it immediately after orgasm or after some time?

Immediately.

How many times more or less have you done it after full orgasm?

Once

How did you consume: cup, on food, etc..?

It was all in my hand so I just licked it up.

Have you ever tried to cum on a plate and lick it all off?

No but may try it.

Did someone encourage, compel or force you to? In person or online?

No but it may be required if I am to do it again.

Buttaholic · 08-04-2013, 05:37 AM

Do you find it very difficult to force yourself to do this right after orgasm even though you really wanted to do it before? If so are you ever able to do it anyway? Does it require a trick or special circumstances?
Yes a bit difficult, I'm able to do it now, Legs over head
Was it immediately after orgasm or after some time? Immediately after an orgasm

How many times more or less have you done it after full orgasm? 2 times, I usually ruin it.

How did you consume: cup, on food, etc..? Legs over head

Have you ever tried to cum on a plate and lick it all off? Yes, and failed :/

Did someone encourage, compel or force you to? In person or online? Yes, I was forced once in a session on skype.

cumtome · 08-04-2013, 06:15 AM

Do you find it very difficult to force yourself to do this right after orgasm even though you really wanted to do it before? If so are you ever able to do it anyway? Does it require a trick or special circumstances?
I don't find it difficult at all, though if I wait until it's cold I do.

Was it immediately after orgasm or after some time?
I typically do it immediately after orgasm, it's hard for me to get myself to do it later on.

How many times more or less have you done it after full orgasm?
I've lost count quite a while ago.

How did you consume: cup, on food, etc..?
Off my hands usually.

Have you ever tried to cum on a plate and lick it all off?
Yes.

Did someone encourage, compel or force you to? In person or online?
I usually do it by choice, though thinking back I may have ben compelled to by my cousin the first time.

pantylicker · 08-04-2013, 04:51 PM

Do you find it very difficult to force yourself to do this right after orgasm even though you really wanted to do it before? If so are you ever able to do it anyway? Does it require a trick or special circumstances? I found it very difficult for ages but plucked up the courage one day and it's been easier since

Was it immediately after orgasm or after some time? I've tried both

How many times more or less have you done it after full orgasm? Into double figures

How did you consume: cup, on food, etc..? From hand, glass, food, licked off used panties, even licked out of GF's pussy

Have you ever tried to cum on a plate and lick it all off? Yes!

Did someone encourage, compel or force you to? In person or online? I have been "ordered" to do it by GF and on webcam

Dale Lauder · 09-07-2013, 02:06 PM

Do you find it very difficult to force yourself to do this right after orgasm even though you really wanted to do it before?

No, not "very difficult" anymore but you never are as excited about doing anything kinky after orgasm as you were before.

If so are you ever able to do it anyway?

Yes, you just do it.

Does it require a trick or special circumstances?

The more you do it the easier it gets, but it would help the first few times if you had someone you like encouraging you to do it and telling you how hot they think you are for doing it.

Was it immediately after orgasm or after some time?

Fairly quickly.... The sooner the better.

How many times more or less have you done it after full orgasm?

More than a few

How did you consume: cup, on food, etc..?

Licked off girls tits, a glass dish, desk, my hand, right into mouth (a lot missed.)

Have you ever tried to cum on a plate and lick it all off?

Yes. That's probably how a girl I'l be on cam with tomorrow night will want me to do it for her private video

Did someone encourage, compel or force you to?

The first times were encouraged. A few times after that were to keep the person from telling about the first times. Lately it's either for $ or for girls I like

In person or online?

Online mostly. Tomorrow night the girl will be with me in, but we'll always be on cam.

fannyslut · 09-08-2013, 01:25 PM

My Mistress has a novel idea for me to make sure my cock does not rule my head
I am a 24/7 slave so every morning when I bring my Mistress tea to her bed
I must also bring a glass and am ordered to wank in the glass, she allows me one minute and for every 10 second over this I have to write 100 lines before I go to bed that night
When I cum I am instructed to drink it
As Mistress says I am now ready to get to work without dirty thoughts going through my head.

Hope this help

Fanny the slave

pogjenkins · 09-10-2013, 10:02 AM

Do you find it very difficult to force yourself to do this right after orgasm even though you really wanted to do it before?

Yes it is difficult for me

If so are you ever able to do it anyway? Does it require a trick or special circumstances?

Yes i can and did it on some occations maybe 5 or 6 times in all. The trick that worked for me is to have some ready to go, not directly as it comes out but some previous room at room temperature

As i describe here : http://www.getdare.com/bbs/showthrea...47#post1041947

Was it immediately after orgasm or after some time?

After some time, usually

How many times more or less have you done it after full orgasm?

Most of the time i actually did it was for someone under directions

How did you consume: cup, on food, etc..?

Shotglass works best for me

Have you ever tried to cum on a plate and lick it all off?

Yes.. but failed.. can't get myself to do it

Did someone encourage, compel or force you to? In person or online?

yes with some help , on my own i only take little wads.. however i looooove precum can take it all no problem

red rider · 09-10-2013, 10:29 AM

yes I have eaten my cum. the best time was when I was being jacked off and I was on my shoulders so my cock was over my mouth and she made it shoot into my mouth

pieblast · 09-10-2013, 12:25 PM

for guys obviously, have you ever tried to eat it? Not just a little taste but all or most of it. After a full on orgasm, not pre-cum. If so answer these questions please:
I've wanted to eat my cum but never have gone through with it. I've shot into my palm and my tongue has touched it.

Do you find it very difficult to force yourself to do this right after orgasm even though you really wanted to do it before? If so are you ever able to do it anyway? Does it require a trick or special circumstances?
Yes, as much as I want to do it, my response quickly changes after orgasm and it doesn't seem quite as exciting at that point. like many other reactions, my attitude changes dramatically after the thrill of the orgasm. and, yea, I'm fortunate enough to experience full-body orgarms. they are the best!!

Was it immediately after orgasm or after some time?
I can't imagine waiting for a while. It's gotta be when the goo is 'fresh-brewed' and still steamin'.

How many times more or less have you done it after full orgasm?
Very seldom. Like I said, I want to but the post-orgasm feeling leaves. Ugh.

How did you consume: cup, on food, etc..?
I've tasted it on my palm. I also have unloaded onto a cream pie and shoved it into the other guy's face ... which was exactly what he wanted! Oh yea ...

Have you ever tried to cum on a plate and lick it all off?
Nope. A plate seems too sterile to me.

Did someone encourage, compel or force you to? In person or online?
I encouraged myself to try it. But when I shot a load onto the top of a cream pie, the guy was all for it. He wanted my juice to cover his face like it covered that cream pie! I was more than happy to oblige him -- it was his birthday!

taskking · 09-10-2013, 12:37 PM

Do you find it very difficult to force yourself to do this right after orgasm even though you really wanted to do it before?

yes.

If so are you ever able to do it anyway?

very rarely
Does it require a trick or special circumstances?
the desire to do it once i cum is gone. and i start thinking corrently again
Was it immediately after orgasm or after some time?
both, its easier to go at it again and get yourself all worked up then eat it then.

How many times more or less have you done it after full orgasm?

maybe 3ish
How did you consume: cup, on food, etc..?
shoot in mouth. off myself or table and off of a girl.
Have you ever tried to cum on a plate and lick it all off?

in a bowl maybe. never went through with it though.
Did someone encourage, compel or force you to?

theres usually some kind of extra help.
In person or online?

both usually online

DarKas · 09-10-2013, 02:39 PM

Do you find it very difficult to force yourself to do this right after orgasm even though you really wanted to do it before? If so are you ever able to do it anyway? Does it require a trick or special circumstances?
I did it many times, usually laying down with my legs over my head and cumming directly in my mouth. After an orgasm, I do not usually want to eat it, but I can force myself to do it anyway.

Was it immediately after orgasm or after some time?
I did both, but one minute after orgasm is the moment when I like it the least.

How many times more or less have you done it after full orgasm?
Ten, twenty... no idea.

How did you consume: cup, on food, etc..?
Tried in a cup, with or without water, from my hand, or directly in the mouth. Never tried on food...

Have you ever tried to cum on a plate and lick it all off?
Never, but I'd like to.

Did someone encourage, compel or force you to? In person or online?
Except for the "Dare or eat your cum" thread, no.

hornycu7boy · 09-12-2013, 12:45 PM

Do you find it very difficult to force yourself to do this right after orgasm even though you really wanted to do it before? If so are you ever able to do it anyway? Does it require a trick or special circumstances?
I've gotten better at it. The easiest way is to shoot directly in my mouth. It's not very nice if my cum gets cold before I can have it in my mouth.

Was it immediately after orgasm or after some time?
I don't think I've done it more than 30 seconds after orgasm.

How many times more or less have you done it after full orgasm?
I think that's too many to count.

How did you consume: cup, on food, etc..?
Most times directly in my mouth, a couple of times from my hand, once licked it up from the floor.

Have you ever tried to cum on a plate and lick it all off?
I thought about it, but decided to use the floor instead.

Did someone encourage, compel or force you to? In person or online?
Encourage -- sure, force -- I guess once or twice. All online.

06-16-2013, 04:11 PM	#16
BLiverpool Distinguished Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 662	Do you find it very difficult to force yourself to do this right after orgasm even though you really wanted to do it before? If so are you ever able to do it anyway? Does it require a trick or special circumstances? It can be hard...most of the time I've lost the urge once I've cum. SOmetimes I can do it though. Was it immediately after orgasm or after some time? Immediately after. How many times more or less have you done it after full orgasm? About 5 or 6 times. How did you consume: cup, on food, etc..? Licked off my fingers, licked off a table. Have you ever tried to cum on a plate and lick it all off? Not yet. I might though! Did someone encourage, compel or force you to? In person or online? A friend told me she'd love to see me do it so I did it on camera for her. Then she said she'd love to see me lick it off her tits. We met up and I wanked on her tits then licked it all off. That was horny! __________________ 44 year old bisexual, exhibitionist, submissive male in the UK KIK: KevJackson1980 Like: being controlled, cum, public Limits: Anything toilet related, blood, body marks.

06-18-2013, 01:19 AM	#17
AJFK Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Middle Europe Posts: 14	Do you find it very difficult to force yourself to do this right after orgasm even though you really wanted to do it before? If so are you ever able to do it anyway? Does it require a trick or special circumstances? Not really... Was it immediately after orgasm or after some time? Immediately after. How many times more or less have you done it after full orgasm? About 3 or 4 times... How did you consume: cup, on food, etc..? i lick of my fingers... Have you ever tried to cum on a plate and lick it all off? Nope. Did someone encourage, compel or force you to? In person or online? No. __________________ Teenage boy from weird country in middle Europe... My english is not at high level but i want to change it. Do you want to help me? Do you want to know more about me or want to talk? Please write PM... Kik: ajfk94

08-04-2013, 05:37 AM	#20
Buttaholic getDare Succubus Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Westeros Posts: 1,994 Blog Entries: 6	Do you find it very difficult to force yourself to do this right after orgasm even though you really wanted to do it before? If so are you ever able to do it anyway? Does it require a trick or special circumstances? Yes a bit difficult, I'm able to do it now, Legs over head Was it immediately after orgasm or after some time? Immediately after an orgasm How many times more or less have you done it after full orgasm? 2 times, I usually ruin it. How did you consume: cup, on food, etc..? Legs over head Have you ever tried to cum on a plate and lick it all off? Yes, and failed :/ Did someone encourage, compel or force you to? In person or online? Yes, I was forced once in a session on skype. __________________ Not very active at the moment Likes/Dislikes & PM Dares Would it be trouble if they knew?

08-04-2013, 06:15 AM	#21
cumtome Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 23	Do you find it very difficult to force yourself to do this right after orgasm even though you really wanted to do it before? If so are you ever able to do it anyway? Does it require a trick or special circumstances? I don't find it difficult at all, though if I wait until it's cold I do. Was it immediately after orgasm or after some time? I typically do it immediately after orgasm, it's hard for me to get myself to do it later on. How many times more or less have you done it after full orgasm? I've lost count quite a while ago. How did you consume: cup, on food, etc..? Off my hands usually. Have you ever tried to cum on a plate and lick it all off? Yes. Did someone encourage, compel or force you to? In person or online? I usually do it by choice, though thinking back I may have ben compelled to by my cousin the first time. __________________ Likes: mild to moderate pain, wedgies, teasing, cum eating Dislikes: shit, urine, blood, public Limits: public nudity (semi-public nudity okay, like restrooms/locker rooms), photos that include face, family, illegal my cock is smaller than ELawson's

08-04-2013, 04:51 PM	#22
pantylicker Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: England Posts: 5	Do you find it very difficult to force yourself to do this right after orgasm even though you really wanted to do it before? If so are you ever able to do it anyway? Does it require a trick or special circumstances? I found it very difficult for ages but plucked up the courage one day and it's been easier since Was it immediately after orgasm or after some time? I've tried both How many times more or less have you done it after full orgasm? Into double figures How did you consume: cup, on food, etc..? From hand, glass, food, licked off used panties, even licked out of GF's pussy Have you ever tried to cum on a plate and lick it all off? Yes! Did someone encourage, compel or force you to? In person or online? I have been "ordered" to do it by GF and on webcam __________________ Likes Masturbating, panty sniffing/licking, wearing GF's panties/bra, cumming, orgasm denial, ruined orgasm, eating cum, peeing, drinking pee, anal Dislikes Public, scat, showing face, permanent, illegal

08-03-2013, 07:08 AM	#18
Alan2dare Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Colorado Posts: 22	Do you find it very difficult to force yourself to do this right after orgasm even though you really wanted to do it before? If so are you ever able to do it anyway? Does it require a trick or special circumstances? At first it was very hard to eat my own cum now tho I like it and can do without a second thought. Was it immediately after orgasm or after some time? so far right after cumming How many times more or less have you done it after full orgasm? many times now How did you consume: cup, on food, etc..? out of a glass and right off of my hand Have you ever tried to cum on a plate and lick it all off? not yet I will have to try it Did someone encourage, compel or force you to? In person or online? yes online many times I would love to in person soon

08-04-2013, 05:26 AM	#19
IrishLad89 Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ireland Posts: 30	Do you find it very difficult to force yourself to do this right after orgasm even though you really wanted to do it before? If so are you ever able to do it anyway? Does it require a trick or special circumstances? I find it very difficult to do it after orgasm. Sometimes just the thought of eating it can do me for a whole masturbation session but as soon as I then have the chance, I can't. As a result, I have only consumed 1 load. Lots of precum but only the one whole load. Was it immediately after orgasm or after some time? Immediately. How many times more or less have you done it after full orgasm? Once How did you consume: cup, on food, etc..? It was all in my hand so I just licked it up. Have you ever tried to cum on a plate and lick it all off? No but may try it. Did someone encourage, compel or force you to? In person or online? No but it may be required if I am to do it again.

09-07-2013, 02:06 PM	#23
Dale Lauder Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 39 Blog Entries: 1	Do you find it very difficult to force yourself to do this right after orgasm even though you really wanted to do it before? No, not "very difficult" anymore but you never are as excited about doing anything kinky after orgasm as you were before. If so are you ever able to do it anyway? Yes, you just do it. Does it require a trick or special circumstances? The more you do it the easier it gets, but it would help the first few times if you had someone you like encouraging you to do it and telling you how hot they think you are for doing it. Was it immediately after orgasm or after some time? Fairly quickly.... The sooner the better. How many times more or less have you done it after full orgasm? More than a few How did you consume: cup, on food, etc..? Licked off girls tits, a glass dish, desk, my hand, right into mouth (a lot missed.) Have you ever tried to cum on a plate and lick it all off? Yes. That's probably how a girl I'l be on cam with tomorrow night will want me to do it for her private video Did someone encourage, compel or force you to? The first times were encouraged. A few times after that were to keep the person from telling about the first times. Lately it's either for $ or for girls I like In person or online? Online mostly. Tomorrow night the girl will be with me in, but we'll always be on cam. __________________ Likes: Girls, roleplay, forced exhibitionism, power exchange, being shared, blackmail, masturbating, taboo Willing: toys (have dozens), ass play, cum play/eating, couples, pics, videos, handjobs Curious: ts, tasting cum that isnt mine, self-facial Soft Limits: forcedbi, watersports Hard Limits: Pain, most friends & family, extreme humiliation, scat, vomit, permanent, social suicide, animals My avatar is me.

09-08-2013, 01:25 PM	#24
fannyslut Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2	Eating my cum My Mistress has a novel idea for me to make sure my cock does not rule my head I am a 24/7 slave so every morning when I bring my Mistress tea to her bed I must also bring a glass and am ordered to wank in the glass, she allows me one minute and for every 10 second over this I have to write 100 lines before I go to bed that night When I cum I am instructed to drink it As Mistress says I am now ready to get to work without dirty thoughts going through my head. Hope this help Fanny the slave

09-10-2013, 10:02 AM	#25
pogjenkins Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 65	my answers Do you find it very difficult to force yourself to do this right after orgasm even though you really wanted to do it before? Yes it is difficult for me If so are you ever able to do it anyway? Does it require a trick or special circumstances? Yes i can and did it on some occations maybe 5 or 6 times in all. The trick that worked for me is to have some ready to go, not directly as it comes out but some previous room at room temperature As i describe here : http://www.getdare.com/bbs/showthrea...47#post1041947 Was it immediately after orgasm or after some time? After some time, usually How many times more or less have you done it after full orgasm? Most of the time i actually did it was for someone under directions How did you consume: cup, on food, etc..? Shotglass works best for me Have you ever tried to cum on a plate and lick it all off? Yes.. but failed.. can't get myself to do it Did someone encourage, compel or force you to? In person or online? yes with some help , on my own i only take little wads.. however i looooove precum can take it all no problem

09-10-2013, 10:29 AM	#26
red rider Baby Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1	yes I have eaten my cum. the best time was when I was being jacked off and I was on my shoulders so my cock was over my mouth and she made it shoot into my mouth

09-10-2013, 12:25 PM	#27
pieblast Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Mid-Athlantic USA Posts: 11	for guys obviously, have you ever tried to eat it? Not just a little taste but all or most of it. After a full on orgasm, not pre-cum. If so answer these questions please: I've wanted to eat my cum but never have gone through with it. I've shot into my palm and my tongue has touched it. Do you find it very difficult to force yourself to do this right after orgasm even though you really wanted to do it before? If so are you ever able to do it anyway? Does it require a trick or special circumstances? Yes, as much as I want to do it, my response quickly changes after orgasm and it doesn't seem quite as exciting at that point. like many other reactions, my attitude changes dramatically after the thrill of the orgasm. and, yea, I'm fortunate enough to experience full-body orgarms. they are the best!! Was it immediately after orgasm or after some time? I can't imagine waiting for a while. It's gotta be when the goo is 'fresh-brewed' and still steamin'. How many times more or less have you done it after full orgasm? Very seldom. Like I said, I want to but the post-orgasm feeling leaves. Ugh. How did you consume: cup, on food, etc..? I've tasted it on my palm. I also have unloaded onto a cream pie and shoved it into the other guy's face ... which was exactly what he wanted! Oh yea ... Have you ever tried to cum on a plate and lick it all off? Nope. A plate seems too sterile to me. Did someone encourage, compel or force you to? In person or online? I encouraged myself to try it. But when I shot a load onto the top of a cream pie, the guy was all for it. He wanted my juice to cover his face like it covered that cream pie! I was more than happy to oblige him -- it was his birthday! __________________ Likes: Messy stuff is my fetish (giving, receiving, mutual); I also love long hair on guys. Dislikes: I have no use for scat or pain; I will not take health risks.

09-10-2013, 12:37 PM	#28
taskking Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: ohio Posts: 43	Do you find it very difficult to force yourself to do this right after orgasm even though you really wanted to do it before? yes. If so are you ever able to do it anyway? very rarely Does it require a trick or special circumstances? the desire to do it once i cum is gone. and i start thinking corrently again Was it immediately after orgasm or after some time? both, its easier to go at it again and get yourself all worked up then eat it then. How many times more or less have you done it after full orgasm? maybe 3ish How did you consume: cup, on food, etc..? shoot in mouth. off myself or table and off of a girl. Have you ever tried to cum on a plate and lick it all off? in a bowl maybe. never went through with it though. Did someone encourage, compel or force you to? theres usually some kind of extra help. In person or online? both usually online

09-10-2013, 02:39 PM	#29
DarKas Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Italy Posts: 71	Do you find it very difficult to force yourself to do this right after orgasm even though you really wanted to do it before? If so are you ever able to do it anyway? Does it require a trick or special circumstances? I did it many times, usually laying down with my legs over my head and cumming directly in my mouth. After an orgasm, I do not usually want to eat it, but I can force myself to do it anyway. Was it immediately after orgasm or after some time? I did both, but one minute after orgasm is the moment when I like it the least. How many times more or less have you done it after full orgasm? Ten, twenty... no idea. How did you consume: cup, on food, etc..? Tried in a cup, with or without water, from my hand, or directly in the mouth. Never tried on food... Have you ever tried to cum on a plate and lick it all off? Never, but I'd like to. Did someone encourage, compel or force you to? In person or online? Except for the "Dare or eat your cum" thread, no.

09-12-2013, 12:45 PM	#30
hornycu7boy Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 122	Do you find it very difficult to force yourself to do this right after orgasm even though you really wanted to do it before? If so are you ever able to do it anyway? Does it require a trick or special circumstances? I've gotten better at it. The easiest way is to shoot directly in my mouth. It's not very nice if my cum gets cold before I can have it in my mouth. Was it immediately after orgasm or after some time? I don't think I've done it more than 30 seconds after orgasm. How many times more or less have you done it after full orgasm? I think that's too many to count. How did you consume: cup, on food, etc..? Most times directly in my mouth, a couple of times from my hand, once licked it up from the floor. Have you ever tried to cum on a plate and lick it all off? I thought about it, but decided to use the floor instead. Did someone encourage, compel or force you to? In person or online? Encourage -- sure, force -- I guess once or twice. All online.