Many types of limitations

[JoMo]

I agree, and I'd just like to point out incase people have the wrong impression, this is NOT a competetition between me and MasterO, but a healthy debate about the principles upon which the things we participate in are based.

[TheLittleStrawberry]

Originally Posted by damned_virus

i think that is the conclusion that we can draw from this thread, there are no laws that will cover all master/slave relationships, only what the sub is happy with.

Finally someone got it.

Kids.... These words are... Words of wisdom...
I think its safe to say that everyone is different and not everyone is as "extreme" seen from an outside point of view as others. But for the person it can be very extreme indeed.

Im tired of the "ssc" sentence.... The only thing I believe in is "RACK" - risc-aware consensual kink. As long as you know what you're doing and consent to it, who the hell are to say it''s wrong?

I feel that certain people are almost discriminated against for being in a certain way. I've seen people being called a "doormat" for blindly following their masters orders... But that's what we're meant to do, right? If they are content with it in the end, then we shouldn't judge them...
Also I've often seen people that aren't as extreme being discriminated against... People who hold back from their masters. these people are usually accused of not being a "true" submissive/slave... That sentence enrages me so much, cos why make a person feel bad for who they are? Maybe they like control but hate pain... Maybe pain has some traumatic effect on them.
Who are we to judge anyone?

Bottom line is... If it's not your kink, it doesn't mean it's not ok. Some people are more edgy, others aren't. Some are switches some aren't. But we aren't doing this for others, only for ourselves and our Masters.

[Ktulu]

I too will have to disagree with the post in general. To begin with, I believe that it is socially irresponsible within the lifestyle to suggest that there are specific areas that limits should exist. I think it is dangerous and harms potential opportunities for slave and Master alike to put suggestions in the slaves mind before they themselves have the chance to even come face to face with the event. Human relationships are very dynamic and i have never come accross a situation that could not somehow be worked out to satisfaction of the parties envolved. And in working out, the option for it to not happen at all is a possibility.

You use the example of sleeping with her boss. This is not a legitimit limit that is hard and fast accross the board. In your world it might be true, but in mine it is not, and im sure there others it is not as well. Going to work withouth panties may be the first step in the process of the eventual goal of her becoming the workplace slut.

Just as it is not a hard rule that her job is in danger for offering to sleep with the boss, so it is with not all work environments being conducive to the idea. Every situation is unique and different. I believe that anything a slave and master together wish to achieve, with enough desire and work, as well as sacrafice, can be gotten. I say sacrafice because in the above scenerio, plans may have to be made to find suitable employment. Would that be difficult, and trying in some cases? yes it would, and even that process could lend a delightfull aspect to the struggle of both Master and slave. Anything gained without significant struggle is soon cast aside.

I hate the mention of limits....to me its a admission to oneself that you wish to have your world narrowly defined, without knowing all the possibilities and to exist in a small room when just beyond the wall of that room is the world.

I believe it is important to think, speak, and act in terms of possiblity and opportunity, not in the mindset of lack, or limitation. When we do that, we open the door for the universe to bring us exactly what we wish and work for.

Ktulu