Slaves here are crazy

[marijuana]

Slaves here are crazy.
I do not understand how they want to be a slave if they dont understand what a slavery is.

They want all the attention, rules, and fun, but all their way..
It doesnt work their way. And when they are satisfied, they are just vanished.

If you really are submissive and want a Master, than be committed to it.

What do you guys think?

[jasper333]

That's exactly what happens they vanish when they are not horny anymore and they ruin the reputations of the good ones

[Grand.Master691]

Ah, story of my life as a Master. I had many subs before, but they left for no plausible reasons. *Poof* and they vanish into thin air. I really don't know what makes them apply to someone's ad if they have no intention to follow the rules or even have a decent conversation. And they always whine about themselves, even though they receive all the attention. I take this very seriously, but they apparently don't.

And it's true, there are lot of great subs here, but the time wasters make them all look bad.

[jasper333]

I'm one of the good ones 😀

[Grand.Master691]

Yes, you certainly are. I hope you'll find a good Domme to take care of you.

[marijuana]

The funny thing is, one of the sub reach out to me asking to control her "life", but they never are around to be controlled. And when you get to the punishment part, they don't want that either. And it's not like I am going to get them punished online by force. Lol

[m55uk4younger]

Yes, loads of time wasting, one hand masterbating, wanna slaves on here and the internet in general "tell me what you would do to me", yes so you can masterbate reading my answer, well no, serving is on MY terms, not yours.

Sir.

[Grand.Master691]

It's just ridiculous. Actually, there's only a few of them who actually know what they want or don't want in such relationship. Subs I met so far, with honorable exeptions of the few, just wanted to quickly get off and off they went. No respect to Masters, no respect to rules and definitely no respect to all the great subs they give a bad name to.

[Doux et vivant]

You do realize that you can easily flip this and say that the "Masters" are just as much a problem as the slaves/subs.

I am fairly certain that many of the actual subs/slaves around get tired of dealing with the fake masters that think they are owed submission because they call themself a master.

So, I am fairly certain there is time wasting done on both sides of this, and the masters are just as much a problem as the slaves.

[bamadude01]

My issue is, whenever I have a sub, and he decides our arrangement isn't working for him anymore, he shouldn't just leave and stop responding. I'm not so much an asshole that if he approached me respectfully and voiced his issues, I'd either agree to release him or start a conversation on how things could be adjusted. Yes, I'm the dominant in the relationship, but it should be fun and satisfying for both parties in order to be successful.

Exceptions to this would be if we had agreed to limit the time of control to a specific length of time. I think it is the responsibility of both the dominant and submissive to vocalize their desires and goals early on in order to find the right match of dominant and sub.

[marijuana]

Originally Posted by Doux et vivant

You do realize that you can easily flip this and say that the "Masters" are just as much a problem as the slaves/subs.

I am fairly certain that many of the actual subs/slaves around get tired of dealing with the fake masters that think they are owed submission because they call themself a master.

So, I am fairly certain there is time wasting done on both sides of this, and the masters are just as much a problem as the slaves.

Well This is a fair point. But as a Dom, i am sharing what i see. Haven't tried looking for masters

Originally Posted by bamadude01

My issue is, whenever I have a sub, and he decides our arrangement isn't working for him anymore, he shouldn't just leave and stop responding. I'm not so much an asshole that if he approached me respectfully and voiced his issues, I'd either agree to release him or start a conversation on how things could be adjusted. Yes, I'm the dominant in the relationship, but it should be fun and satisfying for both parties in order to be successful.

Exceptions to this would be if we had agreed to limit the time of control to a specific length of time. I think it is the responsibility of both the dominant and submissive to vocalize their desires and goals early on in order to find the right match of dominant and sub.

This is the case for a lot of masters

[Grand.Master691]

Originally Posted by Doux et vivant

You do realize that you can easily flip this and say that the "Masters" are just as much a problem as the slaves/subs.

I am fairly certain that many of the actual subs/slaves around get tired of dealing with the fake masters that think they are owed submission because they call themself a master.

So, I am fairly certain there is time wasting done on both sides of this, and the masters are just as much a problem as the slaves.

Dear Doux et vivant,

You're absolutely right, can't argue about or deny what you said. It seems that fake masters and subs are to take equal share of blame for such behavior. And I;m sure there are a lot of good subs, just lurking around , feeling reluctant to post an ad or approach a Dom/Domme just because of fear of being ghosted.

To sum everything up, we are all pretty weary of our time being wasted. Not only time, but emotions and feelings as well.

[Switch528]

I think part of the issue on both sides is that people like the fantasy of the various aspects of BDSM without really getting into the lifestyle and getting a true understanding of what that is.

Nothing is wrong with just wanting the fantasy, however when what is being sought by either side is not properly communicated it leads to problems.

From reading the posts on here it seems that it is mostly trolling for wanking material.

At least that is my 2 cents.

[fun44071]

what if I told you masters are really the slaves and slaves are really the masters. Would you understand then?

[IceMaiden]

Bratling agrees with Doux.

As someone who identifies as a switch, Bratling has seen and been subjected to both sides.

Originally Posted by marijuana

I do not understand how they want to be a slave if they dont understand what a slavery is.

Bratling doesn't understand how someone can call themselves a Master/Dom when they have no idea of what that entails.

Originally Posted by jasper333

That's exactly what happens they vanish when they are not horny anymore and they ruin the reputations of the good ones

Again, 'doms' are guilty of this too.

Originally Posted by Grand.Master691

Ah, story of my life as a Master. I had many subs before, but they left for no plausible reasons. *Poof* and they vanish into thin air. I really don't know what makes them apply to someone's ad if they have no intention to follow the rules or even have a decent conversation. And they always whine about themselves, even though they receive all the attention. I take this very seriously, but they apparently don't.

And it's true, there are lot of great subs here, but the time wasters make them all look bad.

And again, 'doms' are just as guilty. Find someone looking for an owner, give a few orders, jerk off and cum, and poof!

Originally Posted by marijuana

The funny thing is, one of the sub reach out to me asking to control her "life", but they never are around to be controlled. And when you get to the punishment part, they don't want that either. And it's not like I am going to get them punished online by force. Lol

If they are never around then Bratling can understand the frustration. However, no one can be expected to be available 24/7. We all have lives outside of the site and other commitments.

Originally Posted by Grand.Master691

It's just ridiculous. Actually, there's only a few of them who actually know what they want or don't want in such relationship. Subs I met so far, with honorable exeptions of the few, just wanted to quickly get off and off they went. No respect to Masters, no respect to rules and definitely no respect to all the great subs they give a bad name to.

What about the 'doms' that give a bad reputation to the genuine ones? There's a fault on both sides here. *More on that below.

Originally Posted by bamadude01

My issue is, whenever I have a sub, and he decides our arrangement isn't working for him anymore, he shouldn't just leave and stop responding. I'm not so much an asshole that if he approached me respectfully and voiced his issues, I'd either agree to release him or start a conversation on how things could be adjusted. Yes, I'm the dominant in the relationship, but it should be fun and satisfying for both parties in order to be successful.

Exceptions to this would be if we had agreed to limit the time of control to a specific length of time. I think it is the responsibility of both the dominant and submissive to vocalize their desires and goals early on in order to find the right match of dominant and sub.

All of this.

Originally Posted by Grand.Master691

Dear Doux et vivant,

You're absolutely right, can't argue about or deny what you said. It seems that fake masters and subs are to take equal share of blame for such behavior. And I;m sure there are a lot of good subs, just lurking around , feeling reluctant to post an ad or approach a Dom/Domme just because of fear of being ghosted.

To sum everything up, we are all pretty weary of our time being wasted. Not only time, but emotions and feelings as well.

And this.

Bratling has the pleasure of knowing quite a few of the genuine and decent subs and doms. (And she would hope she is a good sub herself for AM!) The fault isn't subs or doms. It's on all of the people who don't communicate what they are looking for and wires end up getting crossed and then both sides end up irritated and frustrated or the people who want the fantasy not the reality.

Originally Posted by Switch528

I think part of the issue on both sides is that people like the fantasy of the various aspects of BDSM without really getting into the lifestyle and getting a true understanding of what that is.

Nothing is wrong with just wanting the fantasy, however when what is being sought by either side is not properly communicated it leads to problems.

From reading the posts on here it seems that it is mostly trolling for wanking material.

At least that is my 2 cents.

This.