[Star Shadows]

Originally Posted by LadyCeleste

Star - Your ideas from a submissive point of view could be viewed as "unconventional" because you have an opinion. That is why I said people who are submissive should look to you because of that.

I would agree that many dominants get their 'ideas about domination' through pornography among other things too. But the thing is that most of those are just shows and do not reflect reality. I have spoken with many doms outside of this forum, in real life specifically, and many of them have a favourite from a pornographic film, or a snuff book that they have read.

I have been given books by friends who are new to the scene and one of them was, "proper ways of domination." or something close to that anyway, and I read through the first chapter and set it aside because while informative, it was not targeting the part that needed to be said which was "play, don't abuse".

I just hope that dominants and submissives alike will read this and take heed in those words that have been said here.

Yea. I have been often told im not meant to have an opinion cos I am submissive... that can lead to interesting PM responses. Not sure why submission should translate to many people as no opinion at all (or even no opinion with your own dominant) it really shouldn't be unconventional.

The getting information from books and pornography also kinda pisses me off. too because as you said- it is very rarely reflective on reality.