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Old 12-31-2014, 09:32 PM   #1
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I wanted to know if this has happened to anyone else before. Has anyone else ever waken up suddenly to a falling sensation and a strong muscle twitch just after you have fallen asleep? It happens to me sometimes and I never bothered to care enough to look into it until now. Apparently it's called a Hypnic jerk,

So I wonder, has this happened to anyone else and if so how often does it happen for you?

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Yeah, all the time. Apparently it has something to do with your body shutting down for sleep and another part thinking it's shutting down for death and freaking out to wake it up.
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*nods* it hasn't happened for awhile, but I actually always loved the falling feeling.
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Yeah, all the time. Apparently it has something to do with your body shutting down for sleep and another part thinking it's shutting down for death and freaking out to wake it up.
Well... damn. That's odd yet interesting at the same time. Thanks for the answer.

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*nods* it hasn't happened for awhile, but I actually always loved the falling feeling.
Yeah! I actually started kinda like it after awhile.
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Old 12-31-2014, 10:16 PM   #5
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These days I get weird spasm jerk things a lot while going to sleep - they aren't really the full falling jolt awake thing though.

I remember I used to get to sleep by imagining I was on a plane and that it was rolling towards one direction and my head would start feeling the roll as it it was really happening. Probably not related, just came to mind.
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These days I get weird spasm jerk things a lot while going to sleep - they aren't really the full falling jolt awake thing though.

I remember I used to get to sleep by imagining I was on a plane and that it was rolling towards one direction and my head would start feeling the roll as it it was really happening. Probably not related, just came to mind.
Ew about the jerky things, they don't sound as fun. That's hilarious about the plane thing though.
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Ew about the jerky things, they don't sound as fun.
At first they used to freak me out, but now I'm just like eh whatever and they make me think 'hey I'm falling asleep, okay cool.'
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I have a vague memory of having read a story about/involving hypnic jerks when I was young, but I can't remember any details. I think the story suggested that hypnic jerks are memories from when we were apes and fell off branches... Does it ring a literary bell for anyone? Could it have been some story by Kipling (whom I haven't read since mumble mumble mumble)?
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It's so weird when it happens. It happens to me in much the same way when I get hit by a car or something in a dream. It's like your survival instincts kick in while your body is pretty much unconscious anyway. The resulting adrenaline rush makes it hard to get back to sleep for a while too.
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I have a vague memory of having read a story about/involving hypnic jerks when I was young, but I can't remember any details. I think the story suggested that hypnic jerks are memories from when we were apes and fell off branches... Does it ring a literary bell for anyone? Could it have been some story by Kipling (whom I haven't read since mumble mumble mumble)?
Yeah, I read something about that last night. Some people say that the spasms are an ancient primate reflex to the relaxation of muscles during the onset of sleep — the brain essentially misinterprets the relaxation as a sign that the sleeping primate is falling out of a tree, and causes the muscles to quickly react.

But I think it's just a theory.
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Some people say that the spasms are an ancient primate reflex to the relaxation of muscles during the onset of sleep — the brain essentially misinterprets the relaxation as a sign that the sleeping primate is falling out of a tree, and causes the muscles to quickly react.

But I think it's just a theory.
Babies have something they call a Moro reflex. Wikipedia: "The Moro reflex may have developed in human evolution to help the infant cling to its mother while she carried it around all day. If the infant lost its balance, the reflex caused the infant to embrace its mother and regain its hold on the mother’s body."

Just happened to stumble on it when googling. (Kipling? Why do I keep thinking of Kipling??)
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Babies have something they call a Moro reflex. Wikipedia: "The Moro reflex may have developed in human evolution to help the infant cling to its mother while she carried it around all day. If the infant lost its balance, the reflex caused the infant to embrace its mother and regain its hold on the mother’s body."

Just happened to stumble on it when googling. (Kipling? Why do I keep thinking of Kipling??)
Here was another one I found, "As sleep paralysis sets in, remaining daytime energy kindles and bursts out in seemingly random movements," "Hypnic jerks are the last gasps of normal daytime motor control."

Oh and Kipling the author? Only book I read of his was The Jungle Book, it was a good book :P
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These days I get weird spasm jerk things a lot while going to sleep - they aren't really the full falling jolt awake thing though.
Happens to me a lot when I'm flying on a plane. I'll close my eyes to get in a quick nap, but feel like I'm falling so I jerk awake. Doesn't happen when I sleep in a normal bed though.

On an unrelated note, has anyone ever experienced sleep paralysis?
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Happens to me a lot when I'm flying on a plane. I'll close my eyes to get in a quick nap, but feel like I'm falling so I jerk awake. Doesn't happen when I sleep in a normal bed though.

On an unrelated note, has anyone ever experienced sleep paralysis?
http://www.getdare.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=175484
I Talked about on this thread awhile back,
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I wanted to know if this has happened to anyone else before. Has anyone else ever waken up suddenly to a falling sensation and a strong muscle twitch just after you have fallen asleep? It happens to me sometimes and I never bothered to care enough to look into it until now. Apparently it's called a Hypnic jerk,

So I wonder, has this happened to anyone else and if so how often does it happen for you?

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Yeah, its common. Theres a book of jack London called "Before Adam" thats starts explaining this as genetic memory of the time humans still porimitive, living on trees, sleeping on trees and ALSO falling from trees lol. So, his idea was, somehow one ancestor of ours had fell from a tree and survived that, and then he had children, and this memory was transmited throught his DNA.

but this book is old and the idea is reckless as we know, now, that the genetic modification one suffer wont be passed foward (Darwin used to think like that, "a horse who always trains to runs faster will have children will run even faster...". His children wont get anything from his training, only the capability to train).

The theory right now is that, this "falling sensation" we have is a memory, yes, but from ourselves. Someday, as baby, you fell (this is a strong sensation, no floor under you, nothing to support you, etc), or maybe as a child, while walking you fell (one less strong sensation, you falling foward, not as a hole, not like you were laid on the air, etc). Or maybe your parents liked to play with you when you were a baby, you know, get the baby throw up and get him back. Babies loves that lol.

Anyway, the memory remains and from time to time it is readed, so you get the sensation back. it is most commom to happen while you are sleping. If its a case you got hurt (like a real fell, not just a play with parents) you will mix the feelings of pain/panick with the memory, and this makes you awake scared.

Again, its just a theory. I dont know any other theory. i just know this thing is pretty commom.
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