Girls need to stop being so shy about giving pics

[Sharp Nacelle]

Perhaps I'm not as bothered about this whole thing as other people (guys I suppose) seem to be. I generally take people as I find them, and if someone claims to be a girl then that's how I view them. Sure, they might be lying - but really, so what? Most of a relationship conducted or started on the likes of getDare is mainly in the imagination and the realms of fantasy anyway, so does it really matter all that much if the genitals of the person you are having a fun time with aren't really the ones that you prefer? If it gets to the point that it really is important, then you've probably already seen visual proof anyway.

Incidentally... that's not an invitation for a thousand 'girls' without cameras to suddenly contact me.

[Dark_soul89]

Originally Posted by muffinfairy

I'm only saying it from my experience, but telling someone that doesn't work. They normally try and put it back on you "You gave me a pic then, why not now? Don't you like me anymore?" etc.

If you are doing Dom/sub things then people put even more pressure onto it, especially sexual underwear to XXX type images.

I've met eassily 20+ people who act that way. So it is only my experiences, but I've spoken to lots of people. And that is normally what happens, sure there will be exceptions to it. I don't always have access to a camera as I use my dad's, and that is another thing people can't get their head around.

I think one of the good things about this site is the no to requesting images. I would've left ages ago if I was constantly asked to produce them.

Frankly with or without pics I don't see how you would want those kinds of doms anyways

Originally Posted by phanmail

I'll put in my two cents. I think that girls should be willing to do pics and cam, maybe not immediately but once trust has been established then she should be willing to offer proof.

I myself prefer to go on cam because it's not as easy to reproduce in my opinion, and I try to keep my face out of the camera's range, but that's another tale for another time...

That said I remember an incident where a girl was willing to offer photos and cam so long as she didn't show her face. One of the people she trusted immediately posted a non-censored photo she had sent him by mistake he the proceeded to blackmail her saying he'd ruin her life if she ever left him.

It (I can't think of a word nasty enough to describe them) people like this who ruin it for everyone, they're ever girl's worst fear and our anger shouldn't be directed at careful girls (though make no mistake I'd prefer it if girls did go on cam and I can't stand all the "broken" cams that are out there) but at jerks who exploit the photos given to them out of trust.

Again it is fairly easy to make it so the photo can't be exploited, if there is no face, and the guy doesn't know your real name they can't do anything but anonymously post a picture of an anonymous girl

Originally Posted by Sharp Nacelle

Perhaps I'm not as bothered about this whole thing as other people (guys I suppose) seem to be. I generally take people as I find them, and if someone claims to be a girl then that's how I view them. Sure, they might be lying - but really, so what? Most of a relationship conducted or started on the likes of getDare is mainly in the imagination and the realms of fantasy anyway, so does it really matter all that much if the genitals of the person you are having a fun time with aren't really the ones that you prefer? If it gets to the point that it really is important, then you've probably already seen visual proof anyway.

Incidentally... that's not an invitation for a thousand 'girls' without cameras to suddenly contact me.

People like you are the kind of people who like self delusions, I am the kind of person that hates that bullshit, I like real not BS, if you want BS watch a porno

[Sharp Nacelle]

Originally Posted by Dark_soul89

People like you are the kind of people who like self delusions, I am the kind of person that hates that bullshit, I like real not BS, if you want BS watch a porno

It's only a delusion if I truly believe in a lie. If I'm aware that reality might not be the same as what is prima facia presented to me (and let's face it - it never is), then there's no delusions involved. Without wanting to get into an existential discussion on the intangibility of reality, it's not possible to be entirely certain of any situation - people need to accept that truth first.

[Dark_soul89]

Originally Posted by Sharp Nacelle

It's only a delusion if I truly believe in a lie. If I'm aware that reality might not be the same as what is prima facia presented to me (and let's face it - it never is), then there's no delusions involved. Without wanting to get into an existential discussion on the intangibility of reality, it's not possible to be entirely certain of any situation - people need to accept that truth first.

and being okay with it being bullshit is the way to allow it to get worse not better

[Sharp Nacelle]

Originally Posted by Dark_soul89

and being okay with it being bullshit is the way to allow it to get worse not better

You really need to calm the fuck down a bit and accept certain key facts:

• You demanding that girls have to send you photos of themselves isn't going to work
• You not believing girls is more your problem than theirs
• Guys pretending to be girls isn't a problem that real girls need to fix
• Starting from a viewpoint of mistrust isn't ideal
• It's the internet - none of it ultimately matters

Anyway, here's a suggestion: Dark_soul89 should show how easy it is to post photos on the internet by posting a large, naked photo of himself (within the rules of course) including his face and with his real name and 'I'm here looking for real girls because I've had bad experiences with guys' all written on his chest.

[umbrellas]

how about instead of asking girls you don't even know for naked pics or anything like that, ask them for a simple pic of them dressed with a number or something of your choosing (238957) written on their hand? if you posted that on the internet no one would care anyway because its just a number and doesn't mean anything. the proof pic doesn't have to be sexual.

[Pingu]

Sometimes girls don't want to give pics because they don't know who they are speaking to. For example in your case, you think it's fine to have a 14 year old girl as a sexual slave. Some would call that paedophilia.

Anyway, the point is that most girls that I have met will give pictures after a period of time where they learn you trust you but also you learn to trust them.

That maybe one week, it maybe 6 months. If you're incapable of waiting then you've only got one thing on your mind and it isn't a proper S/M relationship.

P.S You're banned again

[kearns]

Originally Posted by umbrellas

how about instead of asking girls you don't even know for naked pics or anything like that, ask them for a simple pic of them dressed with a number or something of your choosing (238957) written on their hand? if you posted that on the internet no one would care anyway because its just a number and doesn't mean anything. the proof pic doesn't have to be sexual.

Was just going to suggest this. You can use something random like "238957" or their username written on their hand or a piece of paper.

[Lustat]

Originally Posted by Pingu

P.S You're banned again

LMFAO that's just great.. wheres the rep button when you need it

[pranadevil]

A decent Dom/Master will take time with a sub/slave, and vice versa, any sub that expects things to happen within the first few minutes of contacting them is almost guarenteed to be a fake anyway. At best they're honest about their gender, but are still just after a quick fantasy and that's it.

If the sub is willing to take time to talk, getting to know each others limits, and what time frame they would each have etc. Is more than likely also going to be honest about everything else, as the fakes are after something quick and easy, and wasting time talking isn't for them.

Thus, requiring naked images of said slave isn't really required because you can often tell by the attitude.

However, that being said, I do favour seeing what said sub is doing. However even if that's not an option, personally I want to at least see who I'm going to be playing with, so to that end a clothed picture with either my username, or her username on a sheet of paper and being held up (with or without the face in the image, though I prefer the former) is all I require. At that point I know they're honest, and if they ever get to a stage they wish to share pictures or go on cam, that's fine, but it's all about trust and the comfort zone. I wont demand they do something they're not happy doing, and no decent Dom would do so anyway.

[kendra_gurl]

Originally Posted by Sharp Nacelle

It's only a delusion if I truly believe in a lie. If I'm aware that reality might not be the same as what is prima facia presented to me (and let's face it - it never is), then there's no delusions involved. Without wanting to get into an existential discussion on the intangibility of reality, it's not possible to be entirely certain of any situation - people need to accept that truth first.

Well said: I'm a male who can easily pass as a female in photos or on cam until I'm naked showing my junk and even then some swear even that is fake. Everyone should think about where they are (on the internet) what they are doing ( usually playing with themselves) and who they are communicating with ( usually someone else playing with themselves).

And why would anyone want a Master/Mistress or a Slave over the internet in the first place? Get a life! Go out and meet REAL people in person. I use getdare for its entertainment value and to share ideas with others so I'll be more openminded with those people I do meet in real life

[rhode64]

Being of the older generation here .I understand both sides of the coin ,but must agree it all comes down to trust which does not come over night.So that said ,if a master or mistress is not willing to take it at a slaves pace with which they are comfortable then they should sling their hook .Girls dont be forced or talked into anything you dont feel comfortable doing and if you feel pressured drop that person immediately.Also no one under 16 or maybe 18 should be playing these sorts of games with older people ,for not only legallities sake but safety as well.So please remember if the trust and comfort zone is not too your liking dont play .That said I am no kill joy but please play safe at all times .Hopefully enough said have fun.

[pranadevil]

Originally Posted by kendra_gurl

And why would anyone want a Master/Mistress or a Slave over the internet in the first place? Get a life! Go out and meet REAL people in person. I use getdare for its entertainment value and to share ideas with others so I'll be more openminded with those people I do meet in real life

Hold on, it's one thing to have your own preferences, but to attack others is bad form.

Some people find people online because they're not comfortable with an offline relationship to that extent. Others because they want to learn, some because they don't want to jump straight into a real life relationship and want to try things online first etc.

There's a mass of reasons as to why someone would want to do something online rather than in person, and insulting them because of that is just stupid. It's no different to saying that someone who plays video games most nights instead of going out has "no life", just like it's no different to saying someone who goes out most nights instead of staying in to play games is a "chav".

People like different things, that should be respected, not looked down on.

[kendra_gurl]

[QUOTE=pranadevil;361775]Hold on, it's one thing to have your own preferences, but to attack others is bad form.

People like different things, that should be respected, not looked down on.

I"m not attacking or looking down on anyone. Just asking a simple question.

"and insulting them because of that is just stupid."

Certainly not calling anyone names as you seem to be. So Chill out. Have your favorite drink while you spend the evening on the internet. I'm going clubbing

[Mickii]

I think, if you really need confirmation one way or the other, that skyping is a good choice. It's bloody hard, faking a female OR male voice for a conversation imo. Let your Dom/sub send you pictures when the time has come for both to feel safe about it... As someone stated, this IS the internet, so one needs to be careful and it has a damn long memory.