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Chastity - The real denial?

Posted 04-23-2020 at 04:37 AM by CSasha

I have never done more denial without chastity then just a few hours on my own, pleasuring myself without orgasm on purpose. I admire those who can deny themselves for days, week, and months on end without help by a chastity device. I don't know if I could do that, never tried.

But, I have explored chastity a bit so far. Besides locking myself on my own for getting tasks done, and to arouse myself, my longest chastity time so far was a good two weeks.

I have acquired many different chastity cage, at the end of last year even a chastity belt. I was disappointed of the reality of chastity versus the fantasy of being able to be securely locked at the mercy of a keyholder.

As it turns out, life is way different than reality. There is no perfect chastity device you can stay in securly locked forever. Besides the purchase costs, a chastity belt is pretty secure. But it's still a mess to clean without opening it, and you still should open to check up on your body to avoid harm, besides getting used to it in the first place if I ever will. Chastity cage like the vice mini can come close to being secure, but as Jaro puts it, you can not really lock away a meat sack as long as you need to support its blood flow or use a bigger approach like a belt. All antipull-outs I tried are neither 100% secure nor wearable over days due to potential harm on the skin or blood flow.
The holytrainer is quite snuggly comfortable, especially over night, but lacks in security.

But, there's still a positive side in chastity for me. I am in chastity now for around 10 days, with frequent openings for cleaning and device change. I still train to wear that chastity belt. Arousal has its base and its peaks. I find it easier to stay denied with a chastity device, and doing it for a keyholder, even if online.

I don't know about the future. Fantasies and reading about real people being in chastity for up to years and decades without an orgams in between (if I haven't overread it) is one thing, what I am going to be like after two weeks and after that, is another.

I tell you that because if you approach chastity, I learned that seeing and accepting it as a physical helper and reminder of your keyholder is the thing you can gain from it. As long as you uphold unrealistic expectations of perfectionism, or going into it alone and for weeks on end for the first time, you are up for a lot of frustration. Come to your senses and love it as it is. Consensual chastity. You can still play (meaning also pretend as far as needed), that you are forced, that your keyholder has the final say and power, and you are victim of being put into it. First of all and finally, it needs your serious, real-life consent though.
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  1. Old Comment
    Jaro's Avatar
    Indeed for reasons of cleaning and safety it's just not practical to stay completlely permanently locked. And yes, no device is 100% secure either. What's most important is that you stay chaste because your owner says so. The device can only help with that.

    But I find it funny that you mention this:
    "The holytrainer is quite snuggly comfortable, especially over night, but lacks in security."

    Because my view is pretty much the opposite. I find it very secure. I myself have not found a way to get out of it (except obviously breaking it). But I find it very uncomfortable at night. That's probably not the fault of the device but just me getting hard constantly. Wearing this overnight basically means sleep deprevation for me.

    I'm glad to know that for you it does work at least.
    Posted 04-24-2020 at 06:54 AM by Jaro Jaro is offline
  2. Old Comment
    CSasha's Avatar
    Very interesting indeed. I know there are different tube sizes of it. Ring-wise I have the smallest or second smallest one, so I am pretty sure it's not any loser than it needs to be. I ordered the nub version, with the smallest and seconds smallest ring, since they changed to design of the ring. So let's see.

    I am not sure if having a tube too large might be counterproductive or helpful towards comfort, especially overnight. I do often awake earlier than usual with the holytrainer, but I don't have this painful ballpulling awaking I know from other devices.
    Posted 04-24-2020 at 08:47 AM by CSasha CSasha is offline
  3. Old Comment
    Consensus's Avatar
    Interesting!

    The first playing with chastity for me was a Holy Trainer V2 in summer 2018, having bought it in June. Never went overnight, used the biggest ring. Then i went 53 days with regular cleaning and, latterly, openings to avoid sleep deprivation. Then the was a fortnight gap, then 41 days with more frequent and longer unlockings.

    This time around i have managed about 66 days so far with stints of 14-21 days not opening. Nights have been hard, evidenced by my posting here at 0145, but i have had good sleep for the previous 9 nights.

    It would appear each person is different. The experience i have of the HT so far is that it's pretty secure, i can't pull out, and reasonably comfortable. To try and combat the nighttime thing i have now got a smaller cage, HTv3 nano, and aim to transfer in a week or fortnight's time.

    Jealous of your belt! Got no KH though. Currently at 9 days without unlocking and aiming to beat my current record of 22.

    Thank you for the discussion, it's always interesting to read other's experiences with chastity. Have your travels taken you yet to chastity mansion? Fascinating stuff there...

    Connie
    Posted 04-24-2020 at 05:51 PM by Consensus Consensus is offline
  4. Old Comment
    CSasha's Avatar
    Thanks, Connie. It looks like there's some real insight in sharing our experiences. Yes, everyone is different, but there's still so many I haven't tried yet which I might going to try when I read about other people's experiences.

    Proud of my chastity belt, since it's secure I am pretty sure. But, couldn't wear it for a whole daylight yet, not speaking of overnight. Still have to figure out plenty of thinks.

    How do you do with so many days without opening? Do you shower or take a bath often? Does it get smelly?
    Posted 04-25-2020 at 12:13 AM by CSasha CSasha is offline
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    Consensus's Avatar
    Due to a lack of proper facilities at home and my family situation, i shower kneeling down with the hose attachment every other day or third day. Paying especial attention to the cage helps, as does the switch to Vaseline for the scrotum. When i was using lube it smelt terrible. Now? It's not bad. My feet are far worse!

    If it is bad, more regular showers help. The 22 day stretch ended because it began to smell and felt odd. Recently i have found that letting me sweat when exercising seems beneficial, not sure why. Early on i discovered that adding deodorant led to dryness, friction burns and pinching without too much impact on smell.

    Mind you, bear in mind that i don't really have anyone that would let me know if i smelt bad.

    So, is the thing with your belt that it's not fitted? i have read elsewhere that one ends up 'fscking the cage' and that it gets quite painful and annoying. Or, is it simply early days yet?

    Connie
    Posted 04-25-2020 at 12:27 AM by Consensus Consensus is offline
  6. Old Comment
    CSasha's Avatar
    Not sure. I went there for measurement and advice. I got a lot of information I wouldn't have gotten otherwise. Like imagine, is has to sit tight to be secure. It also has adjustment options. I think I got way better now suiting it to me. There were some learnings to be done, like the practice with assembling and closing it. I am so grateful for the travel system since it makes it way more easy to store.

    I feel it starts to smell very quickly, at least the tube, and I am not good at smelling. The tube did only come in two options, and I think the thinner wouldn't have done it. I understand you cannot offer that many sizes with steel, especially not in a niche like chastity belts. I feel like I can get nearly a whole erection in the tube, it's that big. But then, I cannot touch at all, nor fuck it in the belt like in a cage, since it's closely attached to me. So no chance to pleasure myself there, besides the balls.

    And then recently I think I got how to place the ballsack to avoid early pain there.

    Also, I got the a variant on purpose where the tube goes between your legs, curved, which presses into my dam. I tested it there and it seemed endurable. But with sitting it's definitely not for longer.

    I only tried maybe a dozen times. One issue is the pressure in the dam, and therefore pain by some time. Another issue can be the belt pressing into my hip skin too much.

    Summarized, I am not sure if it's me or we got some measurements wrong. I mean, they do it plenty of times, that's why I went there. For now, I am still practicing and trying it out. It's a nice change for the holytrainer, though after the belt I need some time to let it swell down to fit the holytrainer.

    Also, curious about the nub sized Holytrainer I ordered, with new ring shapes they have now.
    Posted 04-25-2020 at 01:21 AM by CSasha CSasha is offline
  7. Old Comment
    Consensus's Avatar
    Fascinating stuff, sounds like the measurements are good and, like you say, it's a matter of training.

    But chastity is a strange beast, evidenced by the fact that my confident prediction of attempting to beat my record of not opening was ruined yesterday by it all turtling up, requiring a bit of a rearrangement to put it all back and per safely.

    Hopefully having the nano will help with that!

    Connie
    Posted 04-25-2020 at 10:33 PM by Consensus Consensus is offline
  8. Old Comment
    CSasha's Avatar
    Sorry to hear that, Connie. But better safe then sorry. Wish you the best.
    Posted 04-26-2020 at 12:19 AM by CSasha CSasha is offline
 

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