Old 03-13-2018, 03:44 PM   #1
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What this is: this is a quiz on logical fallacies which are errors in logical reasoning. They surround us everywhere: on TV, in newspapers, movies and behind our dining tables. Arguments are sort of like chess, but the difference is that you can live an authentic life without encountering the need to play chess, but you cannot live an authentic life without ever encountering arguments. The funny thing is, most argument you encounter are really, really bad but they are often very convincing. It is paramount that you know common logical errors that may drive you into believing something that isn't true, but is very convincing. This quiz is not designed to be fully aced, it's totally okay if you miss something or make a mistake. Don't go memorizing fallacies before you do the quiz or use external help (like google) to answer questions.

What is needed from you: straightforward, (preferably) short answers and 2 pictures. First one should be a clothed full frontal. Second one is for you to choose: either the naked caterpillar pose from behind or just naked on your knees with your legs apart. Face is never required.

Exposure: if you end up in the lowest 40% of scorers before 6 pm PST 3/17/2018, your picture will be exposed, but (there's always a but) i will not tell you where i expose it. You may find it yourself, but i will give no hints.

No face policy: you are not required in any way to show your face in the picture. If the idea of your identity being exposed turns you on, you can send it with your face anyways, but i will be the only person who sees it. I will not share it unless you fail the quiz and even if you do, i will blur out the face before posting it somewhere. I value your privacy and i will not expose your identity, just your body (and only if you fail).

I probably forgot to answer some concern you have, so shoot it in here and i will answer it. Good luck.

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P.S this was inspired by everyone who made quizzes and tests for our getdare people.
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Old 03-13-2018, 07:01 PM   #2
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This sounds really fun. I tried to take the test, but I got a message saying that my connection was denied.
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Old 03-14-2018, 02:35 PM   #3
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That's really weird. Any you using a vpn/proxy by any chance?
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The links you have posted links to webanonymizer.org

You should have posted these links instead:
http://jotform.com/80716674584164

and

http://yogamaitricenter.com/wp-conte...aterpillar.png
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Old 03-14-2018, 02:43 PM   #5
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Wow, i messed up big time. Lemme fix this and i'll extend the time for the quiz.
Thanks for helping out.

UPD: everything should be working now
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Old 03-17-2018, 04:29 PM   #6
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So far the highest score is 8/11 and there are only 6 legitimate submissions. There's even a smart-ass who put Trump's picture instead of himself.
There are 2 hours left for submissions and 2 people to be exposed. Results will be available in less than an hour after submissions stop getting accepted.
I will do a whole breakdown of each question and the logic behind it.
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Old 03-17-2018, 06:23 PM   #7
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Review of Questions:

Vegetables are natural, therefore they are good for you.
This is a logical fallacy that is known as the Appeal to Nature. Many things are natural, like vegetables, animals and cancer. It doesn’t mean that they are good for you just because they are natural. While vegetables may be good for you, saying that they are good for you because they are natural, is flawed logic.

Some people think that careers are most important, others think that family is. There is a compromise between them that must be correct. Is this logic flawed?
This is a logical fallacy that is known as the Argument to Moderation. It asserts that given any 2 positions there exists a compromise that must be correct. While there very well could be a compromise between career and family that is most desirable, this conclusion lacks any evidence because it sees intrinsic value in compromise. Just because there is a compromise, it’s doesn’t mean that it’s good or valid. If you have 2 positions, one stating that they’re for drowning 100 kittens and the other for drowning 0 kittens, a compromise between them that advocates for the drowning of 50 kittens isn’t acceptable.

Broccoli has significantly less fat than the leading candy bar. Is this logic flawed?
This is logical fallacy known as Faulty Comparison. It may look like a simple statement of a fact, but while both broccoli and candy bars can be considered snacks, comparing the two in terms of fat content and ignoring the significant difference in taste, leads to the false comparison. When you compare 2 unrelated things to make one thing look more or less desirable than it really is, you’re making a faulty comparison.

In Detroit, there is a 10-year-old living on the street selling drugs to stay alive. In Los Angeles, a 19-year-old prostitute works the streets. America’s youth is certainly in serious trouble. Is this flawed logic?
This is logical fallacy known as Misleading Vividness. It occurs when a small number of vivid and dramatic examples is taken to outweigh a significant amount of statistical evidence. 2 examples are not enough to draw a conclusion about the whole youth of America.

Porn shouldn't be restricted only to people who are older than 21. Young people will still find a way to watch it.
This is a logical fallacy that is known as the Nirvana Fallacy. It rejects a solution on the grounds that it’s not perfect, even if it’s an improvement of sorts. While restricting porn only to those who are older than 21 may be wrong (in my humble opinion), the argument cannot be dismissed simply because it doesn’t solve the problem a 100%.

If you are open to it, love will find you.
This is logical fallacy that is known as Reification. It occurs when an abstraction is treated like a physical entity. Love is an abstraction, not a little fat flying baby with a bow and arrow that searches for victims. This saying would be bad advice for someone who would otherwise make an effort to find a romantic partner, but chose not to.

It's time to grab my future by the balls.
This is another example of Reification. The future is an abstraction. It does not have testicles. If it did, you probably wouldn't want to grab them because your future might sue you for sexual misconduct.

It seems like we are constantly hearing about crimes committed on our streets. That is concerning. Is this flawed logic?
No it’s not. It would be if the argument drew some conclusion, but saying that something concerns you, is perfectly logical even if you’re concerned by a small inaccurate sample.

A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. Is this flawed logic?
This is a logical fallacy known as Style Over Substance. Most applications of language, like the example above, are not taken literally, but figuratively. However, even figurative language is a way to make an argument. In this case, it might be used to imply that a team is no better than the least productive member of that team which is just not true. Very often the “weakest links” fade away into the background and the strong players lead the team.

The reason billions of children starve to death each year is because we live in a world that does not care. Is this flawed logic?
This is a logical fallacy known as Subverted Support. It tries to explain a phenomenon that does not actually occur or there’s no evidence to suggest it does. Billions of children don’t starve to death each year - not even close. If it were close, it might be better categorized as an exaggeration.

Be happy with the car you drive. There are many people in this country who don’t even have one. Is this flawed logic?
This is a logical fallacy that is known as Relative Privation. It tries to make a scenario appear better or worse by comparing it to the best or worst scenario. If the person drives a very shitty car, only comparing him to the person who doesn’t own a car can make his car seem precious.

Chillzbobz got the most points which was 8 out of 11.

s010 and sdslave both scored 5/11 and will be exposed shortly.

Please feel free to express your criticism of the quiz and/or it's conditions. I half-assed it at the start and many people missed out on the ability to take the test, so I am thinking about improving the quiz and making a second one. Tell me how you feel about it.
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Old 03-20-2018, 09:53 AM   #8
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At least three of the arguments marked as logical fallacies are not fallacious as phrased. Two of them could be fallacious with more context, but when none was given, you can't mark them as fallacies. The third one is just a figure of speech and I struggle to see how you could turn it into a fallacy.

I'd argue that you cannot commit a logical fallacy in a single finite clause. You need at least two clauses to conclude something that doesn't follow from the premise. All three questions I disagree with are single finite clauses.

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Broccoli has significantly less fat than the leading candy bar. Is this logic flawed?
This is logical fallacy known as Faulty Comparison. It may look like a simple statement of a fact
It may look like that because it is that. It could be the premise of a logical fallacy if something was concluded from this knowledge or if it was used to support or refute an argument. None of this was done. As a standalone clause, it's not a logical fallacy, because there is no logic that can be analysed.

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It's time to grab my future by the balls.
This is another example of Reification. The future is an abstraction. It does not have testicles. If it did, you probably wouldn't want to grab them because your future might sue you for sexual misconduct.

A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. Is this flawed logic?
This is a logical fallacy known as Style Over Substance. Most applications of language, like the example above, are not taken literally, but figuratively. However, even figurative language is a way to make an argument. In this case, it might be used to imply that a team is no better than the least productive member of that team which is just not true. Very often the “weakest links” fade away into the background and the strong players lead the team.
This is particularly weird, because you force a literal interpretation on a sentence that only makes any sense figuratively, and then a figurative interpretation on a sentence that could also be understood literally. Make up your mind.

As with the broccoli / candy bar example, the latter sentence could be the premise of a logical fallacy. As a standalone sentence without context, it is not one.

Grabbing your future by the balls is just a figure of speech like "opportunity knocks" or "all the world's a stage" or "love is blind". The fallacy of reification only occurs if you confuse the abstraction with the concrete thing you've compared it to. Say, if a storm is "angry" and you conclude that you should do something to "appease" it, that would be a case of reification. The example given is not one. And it'd be hard to turn it into one.
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