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Originally Posted by blasie2

A discussion is always met with a argument. You have indeed named this the debate corner which implies there is atleast one other side which will always generate an argument to counter the initially put information. If it were a discussion I would still merely be giving you a reply it is up to personal opinion wether my words can be classed as an argument dependent on the name of which you have called this thread. You’ll never see a debate with only on opinion.

Finding isn’t banned it’s disliked by moderators there’s a difference and ways to get around corrupt moderators if you had half a brain. Nor can o perceive findom as anything but an excuse to take hard earned money in the form of fetish.indeed most times findoms as perceived on tumblr the only site I’ve found that really feature findom as a legitimate fetish/kink they border on abusive and downright disgraceful doms. The fact that recon doesn’t have findom as a fetish is also saying something.

I could run word games with you all day if I wanted to. But you wouldn’t have the wits to understand nor come up with a decent answer.

You go from blaming politics to saying it’s being shoved down our throats to self diagnosing mental health issues. Kindly make your mind up those “useless antidote” were to prove the effect hat people like you have on general population.

In regards to no minors I joined a few years ago(different account) and you only had to be 13+ to join as at the time it was a simple truth of dare sight that was mainly involved around dares and stories the rules haven’t been changed and thus we aren’t allowed nudity because minors can still use the t&d simulator and view the forum without an account so yes to cover their ass they have to make it not allowed because minors can still view true material

You claim I don't have a brain while making the point that Findom, spelt incorrectly, is not banned here. I think you'll find it is actually - as RiskyFlame correctly pointed out. Minors can still view Kinktalk without an account - I fail to see your point here given that.

Originally Posted by RiskyFlame

RIGHT! It is even written in the general getDare posting rules: "Don't use this site to advertise any service or site you may have." Although, it's a bit more vaguely described here. And to clarify, I'm into findom as well (as bottom) but that doesn't influence my decisions on the subject.

Also... did I just read a confession?


Lastly, it seems to me that you're just bitching about people on Facebook and Instagram. If you don't like the feed that you get on those websites, why are you even still on them? Also, I don't have any problems with FB and IG regarding mental health posts and stuff but only because I'm not using FB and IG.

No. You didn't read a confession. I do take part in Findom... but off the Getdare forum which is completely and utterly allowed and what I specified in my post. As for your point on Findom, it was Butterfly who informed me that Findom isn't against the laws - so that mistake came from a Moderator not knowing the rules.

Originally Posted by Terminal

I totally agree with what some people said about your last debate corner. It's a bitchfest.
There were always people who self-diagnose and tell everyone about that because they want to feel special. Liberals had nothing to do with that, nor did the "Glorification" of Mental Health. It was something that has always been there, so you need to suck it up and deal with it.

That's the thing. I respect that this is your opinion - but I do disagree with it. I'll tell you why. Firstly, you claim that liberals have nothing to do with the influx of self-diagnosing of Mental Health. Liberals have inspired a weak society of victims - and in order to paint themselves as victims, more and more people self-diagnose. You also appear to claim that Mental Health has not been glorified. Glorification is when something is made to seem more special than it actually is - that fits Mental Health completely.

Originally Posted by Magnetic

Ok, I wll give my opinion on all 3 subjects, if anybody wants to continue a decent discussion, be my guest. If any fucking libtards want to impose their opinions on me and anybody else... maybe Hillary would be interested i fucking you... After all, she did try to fuck everybody else! So why not you?

Findom

For me, findom is not only ok, it is a must of any real self respecting Master, not Dom, that will demand out of his slave girls, not sub girls.

Why?

Slavery implies total ownership, total and complete ownership. In every area of her life. Both sexual and nonsexual, it is all the Master's. A slave is nothing but property, and should be very aware of that fact.

Of course, a major part of total and complete domination is financial domination. Without it, you do not get the total control you where looking for.

Now, real findom is not taking out of the slave girl's earnings. That is not what real findom, what should be the target of every Master, is all about.

If you say stupid things such as "I do not want to take of my slave's hard earned money, I make enough on my own!" it means that you do not have the slightest idea what real findom is!

True, taking your slave girl's money is a valid way of findom, and could well be done to demonstrate ownership over everything the slave girl has... But that is not where the real findom lies. There is a much higher way.

What's the real findom, you may ask?

You obtain the real findom when you order your slave girl to quit her job, so she has no earnings on her own, and you send her the money for her upkeep. And you demand her a very detailed report on every penny she spent.

Now, lets say that you are working on to get to that point. That, for A or B reason, she cannot enter yet into real findom.

Is there any other way you can practice findom with her, beyond the taking of her money?

Yes, of course there is!

You can control the way she spends her money!

Of course, since she is your slave, it is not her money she is spending, but yours!

For example, say she was saving to buy a new high price skirt, and you force her to redirect it towards a new sex toy... Isn't that findom?

Sure is... You, as a Master, made a financial decision for your slave girl, when she was planning to give it some other use, she instead chose to submit to you and she used her money for what you wanted instead of what she had chosen for herself...

Is that not a basic form of findom?

Nudity

Of course it should!

At the very list, getDare should realize that it hurts its users by having all these stupid rules, and it should at least start on a reasonable migration path to only adults who can enjoy nudity.

How?

1. Immediately cut the incoming of babies as new members, this should be done immediately.
2. Get the age of every member, the smallest one is the one who counts.
3. Invalidate the passwords of anyone over... say... 6 months of disuse. As part of the reactivation purpose of a deactivated account for disuse, you require a proof that you are 18 or older...
4. Let time run its course. Say that somebody get a GetDare account on his 13th birthday and he managed to keep active so he did not fall in the disuse trap, that is a wort case scenario... in this case, you will be free of babies in 5 years.

Note, however that this would not be necessary everywhere. For example, the age of consent for sex is 15 years in Ontario, Canada. I could right now go to Ontario, grab a consenting girl, and give her the most humiliation, painful and exciting experience in her life... It would not be pedophilia. But if the same girl travels to Wisconsin (the legal age of consent there is 18), and I just touch her private organs, then it would be. GetDare could use this also to try to decrease the amount of time having to endure the weight of all those babies.

Of course, they would only do this if they cared about us...which they don't!

Mental Health

While mental health is a problem that should be considered seriously, it should not be taken as a libtard would say:

"O no, do not hurt her feelings, those are too fragile! aboo... aboo"

All the time, they said this they keep the pacifier on their mouth and their mom's tit's nearby.

Real mental issues, yes, but imaginary?

You might just be the smartest person to ever comment on a Debate Corner. I bascially agree with everything you say. What I find interesting about your approach to this thread and others is you've actually sat and discussed your points, as well as backed up those points. Others have just chucked out insults.

Originally Posted by little pet

Maybe...just...you know....

Your use of a picture has just displayed your lack of intellectual ability to debate. Good job. Please do not SPAM on my thread. Thank you.

Originally Posted by Wedgiebondagebabe

Playing devil's advocate is a favorite pastime of mine, but in this case, it is not a stretch from my true opinions. I know some of the responses above just sound angry. I hope that is not where my response comes from.

Findom:

My personal opinion is that I will never give up control of money at least to the point of 100% control. I might say here is 50 dollars tell me what to buy, but I do not really look at that as findom in the sense I know the word.

It is a kink I do not have much of an understanding of, but to me it seems in a similar realm to blackmail. I think if you choose it as a kink, there is to be a lot of trust and respect. Also since there is a high chance of very personal and sensitive information being shared, I do not personally think that it really belongs on a web forum where a lot of people get their kicks and leave. To me, that is not shaming the kink, but instead protecting a lot of the undereducated horn balls on this site from either taking advantage of someone who really wants to try it or trying something stupid themselves and losing everything.

Basically, if it is a kink you want to enjoy, fine, but if what RiskyFlame says is true, then I do not understand why you would want to deal with 2 comment people who just want to drain your finances. But in the end, if you like findom, be safe, sane, and consensual and I would probably make sure you have a legally binding contract in case crap hits the fan. This is not something I would take lightly and I would make sure my ass would be covered from either side in a state of law. Only supporting why I think if I ever did do this type of play, it would be with someone in person or at least that I had more of a chance of knowing then a quick getDare post or comment.

Nudity

I have stated this on my previous post to your debate threads. Honestly, I am perfectly fine with no nudity on this site. If I wanted to see dicks, I would go look at porn, google them, or ask for a picture from my play partner if I have one. I think allowing nudity on the site would make it harder to go through my pm messages without wanting to leave the site all together. Most of the males on this site do not have the chance to get unsolicited messages asking to dom them, punish them, and everything else that the horny population can come up with. I think the ratio is like 25:1 for how many messages coming through being another female. Even then though, it is a real possibility that the female is a male.

I also agree with what is said above. It is a site that has no way to limit 18+ use. You can see the albums and forums without an account. Plus. I think that there are already a lot of dare request posts and punishment threads, if you want an argument on how getDare has spanned from the original intention of the site, lets talk about how no one posts dare threads anymore. Even when they are posted, they are usually written for males or include many of the common limits that people have. I.E. Wedgie dice dares, they always have an exhibition component and/or have ridiculous time limits. But back on topic, I think overall adding nudity would just make this a site where myself personally would stop using it all together in the discontent of what might be coming into my pm box in the future.

Mental Illness

Let's realize mental illness is a real thing that many people are struggling from. We all have different ways of dealing with it and getting through it. Some of us can recover in silence and by ourselves, but more often than not, we need someone to idolize and help us through it. For me, it was a friend that had committed suicide that made me promise myself to not have a similar fate. I look to Demi Lovato for her songs of home and to see her journey in coping. I find her inspirational and Warrior has been my go to on many occasions when I feel down. But there are a couple simple ways to avoid it if you are really sick of it. First, Facebook has an unfollow option. That means you can stay friends with a person, but you will not see their posts in your feed. Second, if you really cannot stand it, then unfriend them. I find that people might be more vocal on Facebook, but they tend to be the same person they are in real life. So if you cannot tolerate a person on Facebook or in real life, well then the problem might be that you do not want to be friends anymore.

I personally find that from time to time, posting or sharing an image I have seen as either a positive quote, or inspirational story, is helpful to me. It is also my way of letting my dad know my emotions without letting the world know. My dad knows when I post things like this is when I feel low and being almost 6 hours away, it keeps him updated when I might not have the time to call. I also do it for myself. If I have negative things on my page, then posting an image or quote is my way of spreading a little positivity. I have taken so long to open up about my personal issues that if someone told me it bothered them to see me talk about it, I would tell that person to get out of my life. It takes a lot of guts to share your struggles and ask for help. Silencing someone with a mental illness sends them back to where they started and then leaves them feeling more hopeless and lost then they were in the first place.

I agree that people overshare on facebook. They talk too much about every little detail on their feeds. I understand where you're coming from with that point, but by no means should we be silencing people. In fact, we should be encouraging people to talk. I have found more peace talking to the people I care about and that care about me that it does help. Sharing some of it on Facebook also shows me that I am not an outcast in my family and friend groups. We often forget who has our back and it often surprises me the people that stand up and ask if you are okay.

Instead of shaming the idea of mental illness, why not support those struggling? Didn't you say in your original post that you hate the idea of findom being shamed, but yet you are totally okay with the idea of mental illness being shamed? How about we don't shame people ideals and struggles on both sides. There is a lot of work that has to be done with mental illness. I am equally fed up with people using it as an excuse, but if someone really is struggling, then I want to know so I can help them do something better if I can. Shaming mental illness as a whole is not the answer.

I have spent time deciding if I want to throw my hat into the ring on this last issue, but I have finally decided I have had enough.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/martyr

Martyr:
"a person who voluntarily suffers death as the penalty of witnessing to and refusing to renounce a religion"
or
"a person who sacrifices something of great value and especially life itself for the sake of principle"
or
"to put to death for adhering to a belief, faith, or profession"

There is only one definition that came up that I feel relates to your "cause" and that goes as follows:
a person who pretends to suffer or who exaggerates suffering in order to get praise or sympathy

Hey. Thanks for your points - extremely interesting to read your opinions, just a few things I thought I'd comment back on. Firstly, albums on Getdare are not visibile to guests actually - which means that to be able to access the album section on Getdare, you need to have an account. What this means, is that if you are looking at the Getdare Albums, you have made an account and you have legally claimed that you are 18.

It's not just facebook. Mental Health is being glorified everywhere - Facebook is just a specific platform. It's gone from a serious thing that is legit, to a trend. Suddenly, all these people are coming out of the woodworks - wanting attention, self diagnosing themselves as an excuse to be seen as a poor little victim; as opposed to actually dealing with their own problems.

Originally Posted by HCM

This is a great idea, hopefully it will create more interesting discussions and help ideas spread. I would only suggest that everyone engaging does so with an open mind and in a logical way.
As far as the current topic, even though I agree with some points the OP made I found atownesq's first response quite convincing.

And a small correction...VBuletin is a forum software, not a website hosting service.

Thank you HCM! I much appreciate it. Atownesq did make some extremely good points as I credited him for. While I didn't agree with everything he said, I defo did see his way of thinking. Your correction is right - it's Cloudfire that hosts; my mistake.

Notice to Immature Users

This thread is to encourage debate; and raise awareness of a number of issues. It is not to insult each other, it is not to spam pointless pictures and gifs and it's not an excuse to kiss peoples asses either. It's open, honest and frank discussion. I have no problem with people having different opinions to me, if someone comes to me with a different opinion and lays it out in the appropriate way, I have no issue discussing with them.

If your intention is merely to come here and look to start trouble, then please do not insult the intellegence or intergrity of my thread and go and sit in your blog and rant. The 'Debate Corner' series is for smart, educated individuals who are able to discuss like adults - not for petty little children who do not have any valid points to make so they use insults instead - like a few of the people who have commented on this thread.

Thank you.