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Old 01-31-2023, 03:45 PM   #705
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Default Big Kid Time - V2 (Harder)

Hi Samor , at the risk of becoming repetitive, I want to remake the last dare I gave you half a year ago. You seemed to like it, and I felt like it needed some balance tweaks after you beat it fairly easily. So let's up the difficulty and make you prove you really are a Big Kid! If you would rather do something new, let me know and I can make something else.

For anyone else curious to try this dare, I would recommend you instead do the first version I created above. In the original version, I intended less than a day for average completion time, perhaps more or less depending on your rolls, but that it would be very difficult to fail entirely unless you roll poorly at the start. In this V2, I instead aim to make progressing through Toddler/Kid difficult instead of easy. The timers have been slightly tweaked, and a new descriptor of "Kid" will make progress slower through the difficult parts of the dare. If you manage to earn Big Kid however, you have a good chance of succeeding. The downside of this is the dare may end up taking significantly more time. I'm still aiming to make this doable within a weekend or two, with allowed breaks in the diaper/pull-up wearing for those who can't do so during the week. But I don't expect you'll make it through without a lot of luck, or at least some point loss and back-tracking through the descriptors. After all, potty training is hard and full of set-backs.

Good luck proving you're a Big Kid! Let me know when you start / send updates to me on KiK @ orophins

Supplies:
Random timer (ideally a phone app like "Random Timer Generator") that can hide the time remaining, six-sided die, diapers, pull-ups with very little absorbency (ex: depends, cheap store brand, goodnites - should be able to take 1 reasonable-sized wetting before leaking, and probably leak if you flood them), water bottle, gold star stickers (or something childish you must visibly wear that indicates you have a gold star).

Big Kid Points:
The below scale will be tracked throughout the dare, with each point showing what a big kid or small baby you are by way of a descriptor (Ex: Baby). This will determine your choice in undies and ability to use the potty as below.

0 Fail
1
2 Baby
3
4 Crawler
5
6 Toddler
7
8 Kid
9
10 Big Kid
11
12 Succeed

Fail- You've failed as soon as you hit 0. You really aren't a big kid are you? Contact Orophins for a punishment.
Baby- You must wear an ABDL-style diaper or a double diaper, no potty usage allowed at all, better hope you can hold it! When your timer goes off, if you're still a baby after adding to your Big Kid Points, roll the die twice, taking the lower of the two.
Crawler- You may wear a diaper or pull-up, but must decide as soon as you become a kid and it will stay that way until you change descriptors. You are allowed to use the potty if you are wearing pull-ups when you gain enough Big Kid Points to move up to being a Toddler. If you are wearing pull-ups, you must sit on the Potty for 5 whole minutes to start your journey as a Toddler. If you weren't wearing pull-ups as a Crawler becoming a Toddler, you aren't allowed to use the potty until you have a timer go off while you're already a Toddler.
Toddler- You must wear a pull-up at all times, and must immediately go to sit on/use the potty for 5 whole minutes every time the timer goes off. If you can't stop what you're doing immediately when the timer goes off, you got distracted and lose this chance to use the potty.
Kid - You may wear a pull-up or panties, but must decide as soon as you become a kid and it will stay that way until you change descriptors. You must immediately go sit on/use the potty for 2 minutes every time the timer goes off. If you can't stop what you're doing immediately or take longer than 2 minutes, treat it like an accident (lose one Big Kid Point). If you are wearing pull-ups and roll a timer roll, instead roll twice and take the higher roll. Kids are more likely to use their pull-ups than their panties after all
Big Kid - You must swap to wearing panties as a big kid. Ever time the timer goes off, you get two potty trips to use. You can choose when to do so, but they reset back to 2 when the next timer goes off, so any unused trips are lost. You can only take 1 minute to use the potty (from panties down to panties back up), otherwise count it as an accident.
Succeed- As soon as you hit 10 points, you have succeeded at this dare! Contact Orophins and let him know how it went!

Timer Roll:
Whenever you make a timer roll, you will roll one six-sided die. Add your Big Kid Points to that roll (so if you're at 8 Big Kid Points and roll a 4, your score is 12). The below shows how much you must drink every hour you're awake during the day, as well as the timer settings to use. You'll set the timer to go off for a random time between the two ranges of minutes. When your timer goes off, roll another die to determine your next settings. If the amount of water you must drink increases or decreases, that applies for the following hour. In the event the timer goes off multiple times an hour (unlikely), take the greater of the two for what you must drink in the following hour.

1-5: 250ml / hour, timer set randomly between 15 and 45 minutes
6-9: 250ml / hour, timer set randomly between 30 and 90 minutes
10-12: 500ml / hour, timer set randomly between 45 and 150 minutes
13-15: 500ml / hour, timer set randomly between 60 and 200 minutes
16+: 500ml / hour, drinks must contain caffeine, timer set randomly between 75 and 250 minutes

Beginning:
To start, you're going to roll a six-sided die to determine your Big Kid Points, and then round up to the nearest descriptor. So a 5 would round up to 6 and make you a toddler. Note that for the rest of the dare, if you are between descriptors on the Big Kid Points, you will maintain your last descriptor. So if you were a Toddler at 6 points and you lost a point to 5 points, you would still follow the Toddler rules. But a Baby at 2 points gaining a point would still be a baby at 3 points.
After this is determined, you must drink 1L of water at your leisure, but I would recommend hurrying as you aren't allowed to pee until you're done drinking.
Then you will either put on your diaper or pull-up depending on your Big Kid Points, and do your best to keep earning Big Kid Points. Every time you fail to make it to the potty (wet/mess your diaper/pull-up/panties instead), you will lose one Big Kid Point. If your pull-ups or diaper leaks, you must drink an additional 250ml of water in the next hour, so don't flood those pull-ups! Every time the alarm goes off, you will earn one Big Kid Point.

Since you're not allowed to use the potty until you're a Toddler, and won't know exactly when the alarm goes off, you'll need to strike a balance. You also aren't allowed to "cheat" by wetting/messing elsewhere, you must keep your diaper/pull-up/panties on unless using the potty or otherwise allowed. Lastly, you'll start by making a Timer Roll as described above, and you will need to finish your hourly drink in the next hour (I'd recommend starting around an even hour mark to make this easy on yourself).

Changing descriptors (reaching a new even-number Big Kid Points):
Whenever you gain enough, or lose enough Big Kid Points to change to a new descriptor (Toddler -> Big Kid, for example), you will roll a six-sided die as appropriate below. Perform this task before rolling your next timer roll, but after making any necessary changes in underwear to fit your new descriptor. This task should be completed before any allowed potty usage. This means if you were a Toddler at 6, gain a point up to 7, and then lose two points back down to six and then five, you still don't have to roll because you're still a Toddler this whole time. But if you then get lucky and gain 3 points in a row, you'll be a Kid and have to roll for gaining points and getting a new descriptor. Complete the results of this roll before using the potty as allowed for being a Kid.

If losing points and getting a new descriptor:
1: Wow, you sure seem cranky! Better take a nap. You must go lay down somewhere quiet with no activities for at least 15 minutes and try to nap.
2-3: Let's associated wetting yourself with good habits! Go "practice" sitting on the potty for 10 minutes. If you are wearing a diaper, you can freely pee in your diaper for these 10 minutes without losing points. Otherwise you should practice holding it . Find a potty training song/video that you must watch for this time on the potty.
4-5: Little babies like you are so cute when they suck on their thumb/pacifier, stick your thumb or pacifier in your mouth, no removing it except to drink for the next 30 minutes.
6: You throw a fit because you want to be an adult again! Why is this taking so long!! That's naughty behavior, lose one Big Kid Point, and go spend one minute for every Big Kid Point you have left on the naughty step (stair step) or facing a corner without any entertainment.

If gaining points and getting a new descriptor:
1: You're big now! You're sure you can hold it and don't need to go potty yet! You're not allowed to use the potty, even if your Big Kid Points would allow it until X hours have passed. X is 1 hour for Baby/Crawler. X is 2 hours for Toddlers/Kids, and 4 hours for Big Kids.
2-4: Wow, you did such a good job! If you aren't in diapers, and you don't already have a gold star, you get a gold star to show how big you're becoming, put it on your shirt and wear it wherever you go. Do a little dance for 30 seconds to celebrate. But with this comes new responsibility, so you'll add +1 to your timer rolls. If you are in diapers, you can instead pee your diaper once without losing a point because you did a good job holding it . If you already have gold star, you get too full of yourself and your ability to hold it, treat this as rolling a 1 above.
5: Uhoh, I guess you aren't quite a big kid yet. You must wet yourself as soon as you're able to in whatever clothing you're wearing, which will lose you a Big Kid Point, but you'll still have your new descriptor. For example, if you just went from 5->6 points and became a Toddler, then rolled a 5 for this roll, you would still be a Toddler with 5 points.
6: You throw a fit because you want to be an adult again! Why is this taking so long!! That's naughty behavior, lose one Big Kid Point, and go spend one minute for every Big Kid Point you have left on the naughty step (stair step) or facing a corner without any entertainment.

Nighttime / Breaks:
You still wet the bed and have to wear diapers every night until this dare is complete, even if on a break. They must be thick ABDL diapers or double diapers, and you aren't allowed to change until morning. Once you are changed and ready for bed, wetting your diaper won't count against you until you get out of bed. Turn off your timer. As soon as you get up in the morning, you must choose if you're continuing or taking a break. You are allowed to take as many breaks as you like, but must make that choice in the morning when waking up.

Gold Stars will carry over between nights (get a new one if it starts to fall off from sticking to multiple shirts). Gold stars won't carry over between Breaks, however, and you have to earn them again.

If you take a break, write down your Big Kid Points for when you resume the dare at a later time (doesn't have to be a morning). You must still wear diapers to bed, and every night you’re on a break you must drink 1L of water before bed. When you do resume, you start with 2 fewer Big Kid Points and the descriptor below the one you ended at when you resume. If it takes you more than 6 days to resume, you have failed this dare and must ask for a punishment. When you resume, follow the rules below as though you didn't take a break, but with the fewer points and reduced descriptor. You don't have to roll for losing your descriptor.

If you're not taking a break, instead change into the correct underwear upon leaving bed. You’re allowed to pee your diaper before leaving bed, and to shower first, but no potty usage allowed until your Big Kid Points would allow it, probably after your first timer of the day goes off, then drink 1L of water, and once completed make your timer roll as usual. You still have to drink your hourly water starting whenever you make your timer roll, but you are allowed to drink it faster than that in order to "catch up" to an even hour mark for easier tracking of when you have to drink your hourly water.

Other Rules:
You may change diapers/pull-ups as much as you see fit - make sure to bring some spares with you if you go out and about. This dare can be done on-the-go, so you should be able to get along pretty well with life as normal!
When using pull-ups/panties, you should do your best to use them wherever you would normally be. After you start peeing, you are allowed to move to the shower or a more contained area to finish peeing. You can also wear plastic pants over your pull-ups/panties if you would like. But as an intended downside to moving up to pull-ups/panties: you may have to do quite a bit more laundry! Sitting on waterproof surfaces is also encouraged. You are expected to make some puddles as a part of becoming a big kid.
When your timer goes off and you gain/lose a descriptor, roll that changing descriptors roll and complete it before rolling your timer roll.
When using the potty, your time limit is counted from when you take off your underwear until it comes back on. If you have to go #2, you better be fast! Set a separate timer if you think it will be at all close. If your underwear isn't back up / fastened in time, it counts as an accident. This is to prevent you from just staying on the potty instead of practicing holding it like a Big Kid.
As long as messing isn't a limit, it will follow the same rules as wetting yourself. You can probably hold it long enough to become a Big Kid and able to use the potty. But if you can't, it will count like you failed to wet (and if you wet at the same time, it will count as two lost points).

Example for illustration and rules clarification, you probably don't need to read this unless you're confused:
You start at 1:30PM and roll a 3 to start at 3 Big Kid Points, you'll round up to start as a Crawler, and choose to be in diapers. You drink your 1L of water by 2:00PM, then roll a 5 on your timer roll, so 5+3 is 8. You'll have to drink 250ml/hour starting with 250ml by 3PM, and set your timer between 30 and 90 minutes.
You drink your 250ml water and avoid using your diaper, and at 3:15 your timer goes off, gaining you a point up to 4 points. Since you're already a Crawler, you don't have to roll for a descriptor change, and just do another timer roll. You get a 6 this time, and 6+4=10 is your result, so you must finish drinking your 250ml of water between 3:00-4:00, and will drink 500ml between 4:00-5:00. You set your timer to a random time between 45 and 135 minutes. You drink your 250ml of water by 4:00, but around 4:30 you can't hold it anymore and you pee your diaper, losing one point down to 3.
At 4:35 your timer goes off, gaining you back up to 4 points. You still don't need to roll for descriptor change since you're already a Crawler. But you do a timer roll and get 3, for 7 total points. You must finish your 500ml for the time period of 4:00-5:00, but then you're back down to 250ml between 5:00-6:00, and must set your timer randomly between 30 and 90 mins.
At 5:10 your timer goes off, and you gain up to 5 points. You could change your diaper but since it's not full you leave it on. Your timer roll is 1, so you must finish your 250ml between 5:00-6:00, and would need to drink 250ml between 6:00-7:00 unless you roll higher before 6:00. Timer set between 30 and 90 minutes.
At 5:50 your timer goes off and you make it up to 6 points, you're officially a Toddler! You must now wear pull-ups instead of diapers, and change out. You roll your changing descriptor roll and get a 5, which unfortunately makes you pee your pull-up immediately you aren't near bursting yet. Then since you were in diapers as a Crawler, you don't have to sit on the potty yet. You roll your timer roll and get a 6 for a total of 12. Since your 12 roll means you must drink 500ml, this is greater than the previous roll of 250ml of drinking between 6:00-7:00, so you must drink the greater of the two, the 500ml. You set your timer between 45 and 135 minutes. You change your pull-up out for a dry one. At 7:45 you can't quite hold it, and end up wetting again, down to 4 points and you change descriptors back to Crawler. This time you choose pull-ups, hoping to avoid spending too much time as a Crawler and changing a bunch of wet Pull-ups.
<Skipping some time passage>
At 11:30 it's bedtime. You're a kid with 7 points and chose to wear pull-ups. You're pretty sure the timer will go off soon, but you are also bursting to pee and decide to go to sleep. You get ready for bed, and change into a thick diaper, stopping your timer. You pee your diaper, and aren't allowed to change until morning, but loose no points for peeing your diaper.

You wake up in the morning at 6:30, and decide to continue. You aren't allowed to dally in bed, but do watch your phone and pee your diaper again before leaving. You quickly shower, and have to change into pull-ups again. Then you drink 1L of water before 7:15when you start your timer roll, getting a 3+8=11, so you must drink 500ml between 7:15-8:15 (or you can do it before 8:00 to get back to an even hour interval), and set your timer between 45 and 135 minutes.
{ETC until success or falling down to 0}
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