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I am not discriminating against anyone so please refrain from making that false accusation again.
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At no point did I accuse you for discriminating. I made sure to use the word "seems" to underline that it's not a fact, but my subjective perception.
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The truth of the matter is that you are discriminating against me because you do not like my ethical standing on this issue. Or else you are trolling either way is not important I have stated my opinion and that is that.
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In no way do I discriminate against you, in fact I'm telling you I'd actually like to hear what you have to say. That's something to think about if you want to turn this into a matter of false accusations.
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All my reasons are valid because they are interconnected. The issue simply can’t be dismissed by breaking it down into dismissible components.
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Reasons do not become valid just because they're interconnected. I have no idea who would teach you a rule like that.
It's like me saying it's wrong to come to this site because it's immoral, perverted, cruel, irresponsible and degrading. Sure some of the reasons are blatantly wrong and others are irrelevant, but by your logic they don't have to be true or relevant, just interconnected.
You can't have an expression, be it mathematical, logical or semantical, and claim that it's okay for all the parts to be wrong as long as they're interconnected. To wrongs do not make a right.
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Reasons why societies make moral and ethical laws are more complex than that.
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Than that? What is that? At any rate it's completely irrelevant because different countries have different laws.
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However the central issue is that bestiality devalues the human status by lowering the concentual expressions of person relationships to the state of instinctive animalistic behaviour solely for the purpose of sexual gratification.
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No it doesn't devalue the person's status and even if it did, isn't that up to the individual. Personally, I wouldn't think any less of someone because he or she got off on blowing her/his dog. I would never think less of anyone for doing something I may or may not find repulsive, as long as they don't harm anyone. In fact, I have respect for anyone who has the balls to ignore what others think.
As for "instinctive animalistic behavior solely for the purpose of sexual gratification." Sex is always animalistic behavior regardless of who or what you fuck. You can create a baby the scientific way by artificial semination or you can get one by doing like animals, fucking. The animalistic way.
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And don’t try to make a straw man argument by saying you can hump a table leg, that is not the same at all.
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I know it's not the same. I was making an example of your past reasoning when you implied, that you are what you fuck. But I'm glad we agree, because that only proves your logic was flawed.
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However neither do I intend to change my conviction that bestiality is wrong or is an unhealthy practice for society in general.
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Do you think intolerance is a healthy practice for society? Would intolerance make the world a better place? How about cigarettes, fastfood or most of the fetishes discussed here, are they healthy for society?
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My suggestion is that you first state your opinion clearly with your reasons and stop trying to start a flame war.
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A flame war? Who did I flame? I am seriously trying to encourage you to stay on topic and provide as much as one single valid reason for why you think it's wrong and you keep going on about false accusations, flamewars and trolling.
As for a clearly stated opinion, have you read anything I've written so far? I do NOT think bestiality is wrong, how is that anything but obvious?
And for the reason, I've given it countless times before, now debunk it or accept it: It's not wrong since it doesn't cause any harm.
It's based on a very simple home-brewed expression: An action is as wrong as the cumulative harm it causes.
PS. I agree that reasons can be interconnected, but that doesn't change that each has to be true, valid and relevant. If not, anyone, like you, can just make up random invalid reasons and claim that combined they form a valid reason. Logic just doesn't work like that.