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Alexis Rune 12-09-2014 01:58 PM
Certain forms of porn banned in UK, protest coming.
 
http://www.london24.com/news/quirky-..._sex_1_3879600

messysissy 12-09-2014 03:08 PM
I agree with your point of view but protesting never achieves anything. It will get a lot of press attention but ultimately nothing will change.

Walter Slave White 12-10-2014 04:01 AM
I have read this the other day in the news, I think this is absolutely unreasonable.

Shibari 12-10-2014 02:02 PM
If I'm honest here. Well done for those standing up and trying to do something 'right' and all but.. there are more problems in the world to worry about.. and proteSt about. Okay this will effect some groups of people but over all its not going to effect masses. You know there are dying ppeople in the world? People getting horribly tortured on a day to day bases..
If anyone should be protesting about porn they should be protesting and fighting for those who are forced into the porn industry..

My opinion anyway

Alexis Rune 12-10-2014 02:20 PM
Shibari, while I respect your opinion and completely agree that there are bigger problems, (and the one that you mention is a huge problem) I think that standing up against any wrong is good. In this case, this topic is currently in the news so a protest now will be more effective than one at another time at drawing attention to this particular issue. If we pick and choose what wrongs to stand up against based on a priority list, we'll pass up many opportunities to make the world a better place.

Asteroth 12-10-2014 03:01 PM
The ill defined socialism strikes again. In the age of social welfare system being drained by massive abuse of it, at the brink of recession the ever vigilant government finds what's important to protect the people from their own freedom.

I say they are probing the ground. First certain content gets banned "for public safety"(what a crap) and once the technology has been tested it's used to start a full blown censorship. It's difficult to press "we want to censor what you watch" but when they dress it up nicely in "we want to protect the children from harmful influence" those who see that it is wrong, are marked as enemy of a decent society.

SandMguy 12-10-2014 03:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shibari (Post 1588425)
If I'm honest here. Well done for those standing up and trying to do something 'right' and all but.. there are more problems in the world to worry about.. and proteSt about. Okay this will effect some groups of people but over all its not going to effect masses. You know there are dying ppeople in the world? People getting horribly tortured on a day to day bases..
If anyone should be protesting about porn they should be protesting and fighting for those who are forced into the porn industry..

My opinion anyway
I completely agree with you problems such as poverty across the world are far more important but it's just the principle, a government should never suppress people, if it is doing anything that limits our free will then its absolutely pointless. The point of a government is to work in our interests, we pay taxes to sustain them and they act in the interests of just a few. I think the problem is in the UK the majority of politicians are Eton schoolboys protecting what they beleive is right. To become a politician in the UK you need to spend at least two years where you are unemployed, this leads to a large number of people from a rich, often conservative background. They seem to think that their job is to keep us in line. If you think about it, we're paying them, they work for us.

DanHenceworth 12-10-2014 03:24 PM
it will never work because no MP will ever stand up for it because if they do they will be ridiculed as a pervert and will never be voted into parliament again, they wont throw their job away for some porn

SandMguy 12-10-2014 03:31 PM
I know it won't work, a lot of people are willing to give up a lot of freedom to feel like they're safe.

Asteroth 12-10-2014 03:32 PM
@Shibari
Go on and make a protest about poverty - now this is pointless as no law can abolish poverty (some totalitarian countries have tried it which led to "glorious wealth of nation and no poverty"... on paper) Protests about people being tortured - it happens mostly in 3rd world countries that don't give a rats ass about human rights in general and the regimes there are so well established, that only external military intervention would remove them. Intervention that would not be approved by publicity in a rich country because it harms the sovereignty of the invaded country and is extremely expensive.
This on the other hand is the government trying to take something away from the people they are meant to serve. Your freedom ends where another persons freedom begins, which means if I want to die by being suffocated during face sitting session with a BBW it's my right. If I don't want to get suffocated, bu watching such scenes gets me going why forbid me from watching it? Next step would be to ban sextoys from sale and license for buying ropes. I don't need a government to protect me from my own ideas - if my idea is so stupid that I'd die of it - so be it. It's my right.

Finally, whatever is forbidden will lead to the underground taking it over. In extreme, unsafe and often forced version. Remember prohibition in the States? The recent case of teenager who was smuggling and selling candies in public school that banned them from school store. He earned quite some cash.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/karstens...-market-candy/


Quote:
Originally Posted by SandMguy (Post 1588488)
I know it won't work, a lot of people are willing to give up a lot of freedom to feel like they're safe.
Unfortunately you are right. I hate people with slaves mentality - and this is nothing else then slaves mentality - "I'm safe, the master is watching"

messysissy 12-10-2014 03:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SandMguy (Post 1588477)
To become a politician in the UK you need to spend at least two years where you are unemployed.
No you do not, the reasons most MPs is because Westminster politics is an old boys club and candidates are selected on what school they attended or whom they are related to.

SandMguy 12-10-2014 03:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by messysissy (Post 1588498)
No you do not, the reasons most MPs is because Westminster politics is an old boys club and candidates are selected on what school they attended or whom they are related to.
Yes you do, to get a degree that will be deemed good enough you will have to be able to pay for a very expensive course that will leave you with no time to earn enough money. The only people who can do this are rose from a rich background.

Shibari 12-10-2014 03:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Asteroth (Post 1588491)
@Shibari
Go on and make a protest about poverty - now this is pointless as no law can abolish poverty (some totalitarian countries have tried it which led to "glorious wealth of nation and no poverty"... on paper) Protests about people being tortured - it happens mostly in 3rd world countries that don't give a rats ass about human rights in general and the regimes there are so well established, that only external military intervention would remove them. Intervention that would not be approved by publicity in a rich country because it harms the sovereignty of the invaded country and is extremely expensive.
This on the other hand is the government trying to take something away from the people they are meant to serve. Your freedom ends where another persons freedom begins, which means if I want to die by being suffocated during face sitting session with a BBW it's my right. If I don't want to get suffocated, bu watching such scenes gets me going why forbid me from watching it? Next step would be to ban sextoys from sale and license for buying ropes. I don't need a government to protect me from my own ideas - if my idea is so stupid that I'd die of it - so be it. It's my right.

Finally, whatever is forbidden will lead to the underground taking it over. In extreme, unsafe and often forced version. Remember prohibition in the States? The recent case of teenager who was smuggling and selling candies in public school that banned them from school store. He earned quite some cash.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/karstens...-market-candy/




Unfortunately you are right. I hate people with slaves mentality - and this is nothing else then slaves mentality - "I'm safe, the master is watching"

Missed my point completely

SandMguy 12-10-2014 03:55 PM
Also if you read into it the reasons for these bans are apparently because it may encourage people to imitate the actions in the videos. In other words they want to discourage things like face sitting female ejaculation, anything that they seem to find inappropriate. It really upsets me that politicians seem to think of themselves as experts in what is good for people, if I want to engage in a legal sexual act I will I don't want some snobs who live off of others work telling me what's right and what's wrong. If nobody who is of I'll mental health or does not give consent is harmed then what's the problem? If somebody is injured during sex that is their mistake, we shouldn't all have to have what we are able to see censored. If a child has access to poem then it is the parent or guardians fault not the fact that there is porn. It's much like if someone finds a knife and stabs themselves it's not the fault of the manufacturer. I'm not so much angry about the porn being banned I'm angry about politicians seeming to think they can tell us what is good and what is bad.

messysissy 12-10-2014 04:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SandMguy (Post 1588504)
Yes you do, to get a degree that will be deemed good enough you will have to be able to pay for a very expensive course that will leave you with no time to earn enough money. The only people who can do this are rose from a rich background.
There is absolutely no requirement to have a degree to be an MP and everyone in the UK can afford to go to University.


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