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Shibari 11-10-2014 07:07 AM

Professional Dominants- Opinions
 
(they are called all sorts, ATM's , Financial Doms, etc etc ive always known them as Pro Doms)

So, what are your opinions on those who do BDSM for money?

Be considerate, I know a couple of pro Doms s that used to be just 'ordinary' Dominants, I also know a submissive that switched too become a pro Dominant

Some people may have a fetish for it. Some people may like to pay for a Pro than find a Dominant

Please try not to be offensive.

Jah Brother 11-10-2014 07:10 AM

It's not my thing, I guess you can compare it to prostitution.

But whatever floats your goat, if they're both into it and with consent, why not?

Shibari 11-10-2014 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jah Brother (Post 1555012)
It's not my thing, I guess you can compare it to prostitution.

But whatever floats your goat, if they're both into it and with consent, why not?

Its extremely close to prostitution , though I think thats why alot of Pro Doms limit sexual contact.

SandMguy 11-10-2014 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Shibari (Post 1555019)
Its extremely close to prostitution , though I think thats why alot of Pro Doms limit sexual contact.

There's nothing wrong with either. Except of course where people are pressured into prostitution. I don't think I'd hire a prostitute but I'd possibly hire a dominatrix, even if it involved sexual activity. It can be quite hard to find someone into bdsm and even harder to find a female mistress. I think if at a certain age I've not had some bdsm sex as a submissive ill probably go to a pro domme. There's also the fact that they will know what they are doing and will be great at it.

Also I thought a financial Dom was somebody who made you give them lots of money and buy them stuff, kind of like a bdsm gold digger for people who enjoyed it?

Shibari 11-10-2014 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SandMguy (Post 1555070)
There's nothing wrong with either. Except of course where people are pressured into prostitution. I don't think I'd hire a prostitute but I'd possibly hire a dominatrix, even if it involved sexual activity. It can be quite hard to find someone into bdsm and even harder to find a female mistress. I think if at a certain age I've not had some bdsm sex as a submissive ill probably go to a pro domme. There's also the fact that they will know what they are doing and will be great at it.

Also I thought a financial Dom was somebody who made you give them lots of money and buy them stuff, kind of like a bdsm gold digger for people who enjoyed it?

its only hard to find someone who is into BDSM if you are looking in the wrong places maybe.
And of course location
I know way more people in BDSM then I know pro's.
But like i said, depends on location and how willing you are wanting yo out and search

SandMguy 11-10-2014 08:45 AM

I suppose so. There are probably a lot of bdsm clubs I could go to to meet people but even then, I've read, there are around 20 male masochists for every female masochist so it could still be quite hard. My opinion is that pros provide a needed service as I'm sure there are some who can't get involved in bdsm any other way.

Shibari 11-10-2014 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SandMguy (Post 1555092)
I suppose so. There are probably a lot of bdsm clubs I could go to to meet people but even then, I've read, there are around 20 male masochists for every female masochist so it could still be quite hard. My opinion is that pros provide a needed service as I'm sure there are some who can't get involved in bdsm any other way.

My answer is to that is just to go and find out for yourself if thats true. Best thing to do is just to go to find FRIENDS, first. Because that can open doors up. I knew these couple and they invited me to a exclusive BDSM event, and from there ive got to know so many people, and now im attending all sorts of events and meeting all sorts of people, getting the chance to play and such.

An_Jon 11-10-2014 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Shibari (Post 1555082)
its only hard to find someone who is into BDSM if you are looking in the wrong places maybe.
And of course location
I know way more people in BDSM then I know pro's.
But like i said, depends on location and how willing you are wanting yo out and search

You can search as hard as you want, but sometimes you need a bit of luck. Everyone's experiences are different, just because you found a lot of people you connect with doesn't mean someone else will. In addition - it is a sad fact that straight males will have a much harder task in finding a suitable female than visa versa; it's like loads of people applying for the same job (if you'll forgive the utterly abhorrent analogy).

The BDSM world is full of murky, and quite challenging, waters; sometimes what people need is a friend or a guide to help them get into it otherwise it is very tricky to get established into the scene. Sex, on the whole, is very intimidating, and quite humiliating if you are perceived to be inexperienced. Applying the BDSM world on top of this, then you can see why it may become too much for some people with a different starting mindset to you.

In this case: pro dom(me)s become a much simpler, and more visible, option. It is certainly not the most viable option long-term, but going forward it can be seen as acting like a push-block. I'm not going to get involved with 'ethics' or 'morals' because I've always held the view that whatever people want to get up to in the bedroom is up to them; just so long as it doesn't do any serious harm to others/people don't force their opinions on others.

I hope that clears up what I have to say on this/where this thread was going.

Shibari 11-10-2014 09:31 AM

[QUOTE=An_Jon;1555123]You can search as hard as you want, but sometimes you need a bit of luck. Everyone's experiences are different, just because you found a lot of people you connect with doesn't mean someone else will. In addition - it is a sad fact that straight males will have a much harder task in finding a suitable female than visa versa; it's like loads of people applying for the same job (if you'll forgive the utterly abhorrent analogy).

you cant be dependant on luck, somtimes it takes something to change your current situation, alot of it is down to luck-yes but not 100% likebi said it depends on where you live, where you go. Depends on the dynamic of the scene. In my area the scene has alot of transgenders, I travel 100miles and i found a scene that was heterosexuals and bisexuals

The BDSM world is full of murky, and quite challenging, waters; sometimes what people need is a friend or a guide to help them get into it otherwise it is very tricky to get established into the scene. Sex, on the whole, is very intimidating, and quite humiliating if you are perceived to be inexperienced. Applying the BDSM world on top of this, then you can see why it may become too much for some people with a different starting mindset to you

You defaintly need a friend. But I must say I disgaree with you about the whole experiance thing, from my perspective and places ive gone, people have all sorts of experiances and even have none, and thats okay if you are willing to learn, when i first went to a BDSM club I thought i knew alot, but actually i knew nothing! It really opened my eyes and i accept that and now still learn. And tou learn from those you are willing to learn off

An_Jon 11-10-2014 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Shibari (Post 1555136)
You defaintly need a friend. But I must say I disgaree with you about the whole experiance thing, from my perspective and places ive gone, people have all sorts of experiances and even have none, and thats okay if you are willing to learn, when i first went to a BDSM club I thought i knew alot, but actually i knew nothing! It really opened my eyes and i accept that and now still learn. And tou learn from those you are willing to learn off

Ok, I see your point - experience starting out isn't the issue. However, luck still is. A lot of whether you can invest time/energy or money into the lifestyle depends on circumstance, friends, time/commitments and pro-dom(me)s may seem like the easiest and best solution.

Also, experiences are different for everybody - that's why they're called experiences; everyone's mind works differently. Don't assume that because one route worked for you it'll work for everyone. Again, circumstances and the people met will be different, but so will the learning process and the perception of the world. Indeed, some may feel totally unable to fit into the lifestyle and see pro domming as their only option for interaction.

Essentially, what I'm saying is this: Everyone has to make their own way through something of this nature, and for some that means going down the easier, short term, professional route.

Shibari 11-10-2014 09:49 AM

I'm not saying that my route will work for everyone. However I will give advice and help based on my experiences.

Im not going to suggest and help someone with something if Ive never been there for myself, im saying that attending events worked for me, there for might work for you so I recommend it.

By the way what i have said has been NOTHING to do with pro-doms , incase you are getting me mixed up.

An_Jon 11-10-2014 09:53 AM

It has worked for me, just playing devils advocate. I find it makes for the better discussions :P.

I was also offering an opinion, as was the reason for this thread.

And I wasn't getting you mixed up. I already know you're a pro-est of all the pro dommes out there. Totally.

Shibari 11-10-2014 10:50 AM

What do you mean by pro-est?

An_Jon 11-10-2014 11:26 AM

'The most pro' :P

SandMguy 11-10-2014 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Shibari (Post 1555154)
I'm not saying that my route will work for everyone. However I will give advice and help based on my experiences.

Im not going to suggest and help someone with something if Ive never been there for myself, im saying that attending events worked for me, there for might work for you so I recommend it.

By the way what i have said has been NOTHING to do with pro-doms , incase you are getting me mixed up.

Well based on your albums alone I reckon your route is the best. The problem is I'm a bit nervous about talking to friends about bdsm. Any suggestions on how to make friends directly through bdsm? I'd feel more comfortable talking about it with people who I met that way


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