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Spelling for Morons
Look, I know spelling is the not the easiest thing in the world for a lot of people. Especially since there are people who live all across the world on getdare, and spelling may have different dialects or simple changes in a single word (favorite and favourite for example), spelling can be very tricky. As a mod on getDare who struggles with spelling at times, I am not going to get mad at someone who misspells one word on accident. However, what I will get mad at are people who use AOL speak or don't take time at all to a spellchecker. Now, for morons, you may be asking what the following two are and how can I avoid getting an infraction for doing them. Thank God I am here.
First AOL speak. Here is an example: Quote:
The second one you may get mad at me for, and really, I don't give a flying f***. Using a spellchecker is one of the easiest things to do in the world. If you know you suck at spelling, it is right there for you. One way to to spell-check your post is to type it out in something like Microsoft Word and copy and paste it onto getDare. I know that not everyone has Word, that is why I have alternates. The latest versions of the web browsers such as Firefox, Safari and Google Chrome have such options, on Windows 7 at least (if you use Firefox or Chrome, right click to make sure the spellchecker is enabled. Also I cannot speak for any other kind of OS). Note that if you use Internet Explorer, this option does not exist. There are a few ways to correct this. The first is to get a real web browser. The second is to go to a website such as http://www.spellcheck.net/speller/ where it will do it for you. Are some of these tips inconvenient for some? Probably. Like I said, if you misspell a word or two in a story, odds are no mods will really care to the point where they will give you an infraction. However, if you really have trouble spelling, hopefully, you can learn something from this post. Until next time, Manbearpig PS: I welcome feedback so feel free to post. If you noticed anything wrong with any of my statements or have a different OS, feel free to share what you are thinking and I will copy it to the main post! |
Haha, the title certainly isn't very subtle, but i am happy to see a topic like this on the less. It always irks me when people seem to typing in such a manner on purpose.
In regards to spell checking on Firefox, they have their own system and dictionaries for it, so it works regardless of the OS it is used on :) |
Dear MBP:
i lUv u. can i b Ur spellcheck Slav?!?!?!!!!111 In all seriousness, thanks for this. I know I may have the occasional typo...But it does get tiring reading chat speak and incredibly illiterate sentences. |
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I don't mean to cause an argument, however there is one major flaw in your' insistence that everyone use a spell check. Most spell checkers that I know of can't spell correct English. They try to change correct spellings of everyday words into some corrupted version of English, most commonly known as American English. Besides which, the word Slav (that you were so passionate about) is the correct word to describe a person of Slavic origin. Therefore, running this mis-spelling of the word slave through a spell check, would not result in it being picked up. |
Yaeh I get aenyond at smoe of the bad selpinlg on hree too. I'm not the bset selplr mslyef you konw. Idk wat ur talkn bout wif ta alo spek tho?
Hehe, I'm sorry. I couldn't resist :) |
Thank you for pointing this out. I get mad at times when people use text talk. People pm me say: Hey do u waaaant to B my slav or mastr plz repli liek soon cuz i need 2 go sumwhere.
Thats a copy and paste of a pm I actually got! People make so many silly mistakes that can easily be changed. Thanks xxx |
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And to claim that one type of "standardized" English is more "correct" that another is just silly and ignores that languages can change (would old English or middle English not be more correct English than modern English by such logic after all?) |
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Also, it says on the Slave/Master section that it is the Slave/Master section. When creating a thread, it asks if you want a slave or a master and asks if you are a slave or a master. When replying to someones post it says a slave is looking for a master or vice-versa. Therefore, the misspelling of the word slave is really not inexcusable, but thank you for the Geography lesson (I already knew that by the way.)
However, the point of this thread is not to discuss the word slave or the Slav's so if you have any information, please feel free to post it. |
I think this begs the question, does anyone have a Slavic slave?
In all seriousness, thank you for the thread. It is much more enjoyable to read posts with solid spelling and decent grammer. |
Spelling is my life, therefore this thread makes me very happy :D
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ps - not meaning to pick spots on this excellent thread just showing that even spell checks etc can miss things MY PERSONAL VIEW I agree with MOST of your thread and that fact that AOL speak is not required, and as I’m dyslexic I DO use Microsoft word for spelling before posting parts to my story. However I don’t find this practical in some circumstances, in chat extra. The problem I also find is being dyslexic I get words muddled up occasionally eg) There / their Were / wear / where Through / though / throw Are just example – and Microsoft word therefore is unable to pick these up I also find sometimes that Microsoft word / spell checkers etc are unable to find the word I am looking for eg) To represent as greater than is actually the case; overstate = Exaggerate This word took me 8min 12 sec to find spelling as at first put edzadurate / egsadurate / exadurate etc all with no spelling corrections being correct. I found the correct spelling in the end my typing how I expected it to be worded in INTERNET EXPLORER – and it came up with suggestions unlike Microsoft word The other thing I disagree with on this thread is the fact that you can easily when checking what you have typed miss something, you may type the word twice, or missed a word out etc Also at times I am only on IPOD TOUCH and so CAN NOT use a spell checker before posting, however when doing this I do not post new threads – or parts of story for this reason. You can usually tell when I have typed on ipod touch as at bottom of posts it usually states Love RACHIE (capitals) and lower case if using Laptop. However for the majority I agree that everyone CAN TRY to use proper English and spell things to the best of their capabilities Love Rachie x x x x x HAVE THANKED THE THREAD – MORE PEOPLE SHOULD READ |
What about Dyslexic people who cant spell? are they excused? =P
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No they are not Blank. They are expected to use spell check
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I was not meaning anything by the minor errors that were posted only mearly the fact that even using a spel checker will not bring everything up. Therefore Spelling / Grammer i can understand the odd mistake. However like the thread was meaning (manbearpig) i agree that aol chat is not required and have personally brought some of these to new commer attentions or contacted a mod in the past. What i also used to find annoying was abreviations, since coming out of hospital and learning everything again, some of these used to escape me, however after asking polite people / mods / friends i can follow all/most speech easily. eg) lmfao - as previously used lol ABM - A big Mistake DBM - Dont both me BRB - Be right back Just a few seen used in chat The only thing i say again is - NOT EVERYONE HAS THE LUXURY OF A PC/LAPTOP AND CAN USE SPELL CHECKER - BUT EVERYONE CAN TRY TO USE ENGLISH Love RACHIE x x x x |
Thank you for the feedback. I agree and I should have stressed this a bit more, spelling on the chat is not as important because you are trying to rush. You want to get a response as quick as possible. Unless I see something majorly wrong, I won't spell check. I won't use grammar at all really. However, when someone has time to read their work and go through it, then spelling becomes an issue to me
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I thought you were going to post these:
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/misspelling http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.co...verything.html |
I will try and use a spell checker, but what Im gonna say is not everyone will remember to use a spell checker. Is it really fair to be harsh on them if they cant help it? if its idiots who speak stupid text talk...smite them all you want. lol
Edited : I mean this as a point, not to cause a argument. Ill just follow what MBp says. |
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You will also earn more respect, if you TRY to use correct spellings grammer etc, especially in stories and when posting a new thread. Everyone is able to preview the posts first and can easily check layout etc. Love Rachie x x x x |
In my humble opinion...
Honestly I assume this thread was made for those PM's and chat people 'who lyk 2 tlk lik dis." To me that seems pretty far off from any form of English whatsoever. Therefore... doesn't really matter which denomination of English you speak, just as long as you don't talk like a 12 year old with no education whatsoever. -Mike |
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And yes it does automatically check the spelling, however usually on mine it makes the words INCORRECT. So have to recheck before posting. eg - changes Rachie to RACHIE. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Since the thread was set up there has also now become a new function - NOTEPAD. very useful for enable people to save things. Can then proof yourself if needed. Also handy so you do not have to post in a hurry, will save to your notepad if you select Save changes at the bottom of the page. You can then re open Notepad edit, copy etc and post at a later time. To find Notepad Click Quick Links at the top right of the page This is then just under Ban List Love Rachie x x x x |
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With the English and American languages is that some spellings simply have to be learned, there is no logic which follows through everything without exception. The rules of grammar are taken from latin (or greek) and imposed on a germanic language which makes life quite difficult. All that said, although it's difficult, good spelling and grammar mean that everyone understands what you are saying, without ambiguity. When there is no tone of voice or other clue to your meaning, you have to be clear. |
My rant
From someone who is currently training to be a teacher of English to non-native speakers, here is my view.
Some people (descriptivists) argue that as long as communication is achieved, language change and variation is not a negative thing, and some even go so far as to say it should be encouraged. On the other hand, prescriptivists argue that the language is like a crumbling castle, in that it used to be a beautiful stately home but is becoming gradually worn down by people who use it incorrectly. My view is that spelling mistakes, as irritating as they can be, are not the end of the world. 'Text talk' such as 'c u l8r, lv u 2' annoys me unless it is in a text/on msn etc. The reason behind such grammar is that it makes IM more instant and it makes texting less expensive. On a forum, immediacy and expense are not issues, so speak properly you ignorant morons! I admit, I make mistakes from time to time due to various reasons, but they are just that: mistakes. To be purposely illiterate is beyond me. And coming from a British English (the real kind :p) speaker, it pains me to say it but it does not matter what dialect of English you speak. There is a standard written form for your country/region so USE IT!!! So yeah, that's my little grammar rant over. Come on people, speak properly :) Over & Out, Bangin (I've just realised how much of a dick this post makes me sound, but I don't care. I'm just a man who loves his language!) |
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The below can be written in a few ways even "So yeah, that's my little grammar rant, it is over now". "So yeah, that's my little grammar rant, which is over now". "So yeah, that's my little grammar rant, is now over". "So yeah, that's my little grammar rant, it is over". "So yeah, that's my little grammar rant, it is now over." "So yeah, that's my little grammar rant, which is now over." Moral here? Before you call other people ignorant morons, be sure you can speak properly first. ;) I will quote your line that has the smile face: "Come on Bangin, speak properly". Now my grammar rant is over with you. |
Ahh, gotta love the smug and the picky. :rolleyes:
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I really don't understand why this is being argued still. If you misspell one word, the mods are not going to hunt you down because, quite frankly, I am not good at spelling myself. However, I will take time to make sure I did a decent enough job so that it is readable and not something a 5 year old would right.
And Loke, I have no f'ing idea what your last post was about. If you have been reading this entire thread at all, you would know that this no nitpicking each sentence (and according to Word, that sentence was correct so you never know), but spelling on a larger scale, like using text speak to talk to someone in a thread. ("wil u b my slave?"). |
I like this. :)
So I hate to take this fine thread and spoil it by picking apart the post made by another, however, whilst I love words and my language (standard UK English), grammar nazi's are a pet hate of mine. I believe there is a huge difference between correcting a mistake to help the person who made it and correcting a mistake to make yourself feel good, and the intention behind the post is always obvious by the way the post is worded. Very few people use the correct grammar all the time, even when it is required for your profession it is nice to slip into a more gentle way of talking and typing in your free time. I see the logic in the grammar of your post Loke, however I do not understand what is to be gained by it. As I read it Bangin's post was legible, intelligent and made perfect sense, therefore your post served no logical purpose. It did however, make you seem pompous, not the result you were hoping for I'm sure. Now, happily returning to the original post. I agree with the message in the original thread for two reasons: 1. Whilst I understand the need to keep text messages short to obviate the cost, I hate text speak for anything other than text messages. 2. I believe that using spell check on a regular basis will actually improve your personal spelling ability over time. There are many words, and they're not always long ones, that give me difficulties, so I cheat. I use Google. I simply type the word as I spell it into Google and it very helpfully says "Did you mean *****?" and gives me the correct spelling. lol For some reason irresistible is one word I almost always have to double check. The 'ible' ending does not seem correct, I always want to spell it 'able'. |
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fuck the anal bitches and their perfect spelling and grammer! i type in chat, and in messages excatly how i would speak... "proper grammer" only exists in formal letters, to be quite honest. plus although i can spell most words, and my brain can tell my fingers what to push AND even using a spell checker. a few of us still spell words wrong, and why? because we have a minor learning disability. me, im a photonic speller, i spell the words how i figure they should sound, and even if i know the word... i still 50% of the time spell it wrong. Quote:
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Icn bin Ein Grammar Nazi. Du bist Ein Idiot.
But text speak is good. One should always abbreviate away the big words (two syllables or more), lest one be accused of Systematic Highfalutin Information Transfer.
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The way I type/write... I usually write in "Standard English", but there are times I'll use non-standard English/grammar, with words such as dunno/wanna/rly? etc. Nothing wrong with it every now and again; it doesn't hurt anyone and it's understandable.
The only thing I have issues is text speak when it's lazy. It's called text speech because it's a readily accepted way to text; it's quick, easy, it's expected in texting. Elsewhere, though, it's not. |
This just keeps going round and round in circles
The basic thing is: TRY to use proper english when making a thread, Posting &/or in the Chat DO NOT use text speech on getDare We are all aware that different people have language or learning disabilities, and getDare does not Discriminate against this. But do NOT obviously abuse this by being lazy, or posting every word incorrect or action may/will be taken If your not sure how to spell a word - why not think of an alternative. Reasons for this 1) Earn respect from other users 2) Makes it easier for others to read 3) More likely to make friends 4) If your making a thread - you are more likly to get replies If you are not certain about something ask END OF SUBJECT (full stop) CLOSED LOVE RACHIE X X X X |
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