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userben
04-28-2007, 10:31 PM
it is a good way to keep your slaves in line and keep them around but master or mistress should tell the person that is going to be there slave up front that if that get out of line or just leave and are never to be seen or heard from again that the video or pics are going on the web. trust me i now how it feel to be approc be someone you know and asking ? about the pic and or video it weird. it works best for rebellon slave and people that want to keep there slave and master thing a secret.so what do u think on the punishment to keep slaves in line.

Hccmike
04-29-2007, 06:07 AM
Well the only problem is you may run into some legality issues. I was understanding that in order to post somones picture anywhere you need there consant. You really want to be carefull about posting nude pictures ESP becuase alot of the people are under the age of 18... and even if a person says there 18 you can never reall be sure. Child Porn is taking very strongly.



An alternative that ive used at least once.
Have your slave give you the email of somone from there school. If they try to ditch send them to that person.

TrekBoy008
04-29-2007, 09:29 AM
The problem with blackmail is that it is illegal and becomes ineffective if the person being blackmailed decides to not keep the secret anymore.
The problem with the e-mail thing is that the slave could send you a fake e-mail address and you'd have no way of knowing it.
Also, with both of these, what's to stop a master from using them to force the slave to do something beyond his/her limits?

Maverick
04-29-2007, 04:28 PM
I'd recommend against it, mostly from a master's point of view. I fully understand the frustration in losing a slave, especially a good one. However, the master/slave arrangement is mostly based on trust, and should be. Besides, do you really want a slave that does not want to stick around. My guess is that it would stop being fun really quickly.

Dare861
05-01-2007, 04:40 PM
No. Just no. Blackmail is wrong, especially in this kind of relationship. Like Maverick said, it's built on trust. Blackmail will kill all trust. Even if you don't actually plan on going through with the threat, bad idea.

-Daredude

chain
05-02-2007, 02:07 PM
I do not endorse blackmail, personally.

Glutgod
05-02-2007, 04:40 PM
Yes blackmail is a very bad thing, I know I would not do anything with that.

insanehuman455
05-28-2007, 05:24 PM
it is bad indeed, however some people like the threat of it, because it will push their limits and gives a stronger sense that you must obey your master/mistress, it should be optional for the slave, if the slave wants to move up the notch then it should be done, because thats the only way over the internet, most of the blakcmails probably wont follow through its up to the master/mistress

Buzzlightyear
09-14-2007, 03:00 PM
i think it sort of depends on if you are doing it recreationally, or hardcore/real life. personally, i hate the idea.

and9993
09-15-2007, 07:10 AM
instead of asking for a frinds email ask for the password to their email so you have more control but in the end if they dont wantto be yor slave ne more blackmail wont help

tieddowncold
10-17-2007, 12:23 AM
So the whole blackmail thing may seem like a turn-on to some slaves, where they are forced to stay with the master, but the reality of it is that the master will have control of everything the slave does. Blackmailing has a huge risk, not only legality issues, but safety as well. Limits are set based on comfortability...and in the condition that a slave CAN have limits. If that is taken away, and the line is carried out too far-you no longer have a master/slave relationship, but rather an issue of forced doing.

TheLittleStrawberry
10-17-2007, 06:35 AM
So the whole blackmail thing may seem like a turn-on to some slaves, where they are forced to stay with the master, but the reality of it is that the master will have control of everything the slave does. Blackmailing has a huge risk, not only legality issues, but safety as well. Limits are set based on comfortability...and in the condition that a slave CAN have limits. If that is taken away, and the line is carried out too far-you no longer have a master/slave relationship, but rather an issue of forced doing.

Still.. Ind the end, the slave can always report it. So In SOME way the slave still has a small plan B... thats if the Master isn't stupid and goes even though, he/she has been threatened with reporting the issue. I believe cases like this are taken quite seriously.

Powerstrip
10-17-2007, 09:22 AM
IMHO, if you need blackmail to stay with your master/mistress, then your not really into this are you?

damned_virus
10-17-2007, 10:02 AM
Well with my mistress, there is an element of jokey blackmail, but nothing serious. Serious blackmail in this kind of relationship is very wrong, it fractures vital trust.

Looking4somename
10-17-2007, 04:44 PM
I personally believe that blackmailing a slave is wrong on so many levels.
The whole point in these relationships is TRUST. how can u trust someone who's blackmailing you..?

Anyway, about reporting an abuse. If, say, the slave lives in one country and the master lives in a far away country. How effective will reporting an abuse be? seriously, it just won't work.

tieddowncold
10-17-2007, 05:46 PM
that sometimes the SLAVE wants to be blackmailed, and that the master shouldnt agree to blackmailing.

TheLittleStrawberry
10-18-2007, 02:57 PM
IMHO, if you need blackmail to stay with your master/mistress, then your not really into this are you?

Personally I wouldn't like being blackmailed. THe lack of power is a turn on. But in the end, it's only good if the Master/Mistress only uses it to push the stuff that the slave likes... If it becomes serious and beyond the slave's limits, it'll become abuse. So.. Imo.. Blackmail really would only be good as idle threats, and only if you KNOW that the slave wants it, and still then. You need to know your slave VERY well... To see the difference between a yes-no and a no-no.

grab_my_underware
10-19-2007, 10:17 AM
once you get blackmailed, you can kiss you normal life good bye!

damned_virus
10-19-2007, 11:46 AM
Personally I wouldn't like being blackmailed. THe lack of power is a turn on. But in the end, it's only good if the Master/Mistress only uses it to push the stuff that the slave likes... If it becomes serious and beyond the slave's limits, it'll become abuse. So.. Imo.. Blackmail really would only be good as idle threats, and only if you KNOW that the slave wants it, and still then. You need to know your slave VERY well... To see the difference between a yes-no and a no-no.

I agree, idle threats do give the illusion of lack of power which is a turn-on for a lot of people.

Bit off topic:

Does anyone else think that the M/s relationship seems mainly to be dictated by the slave, what the slave wants?

Irony............

TheLittleStrawberry
10-19-2007, 07:08 PM
Does anyone else think that the M/s relationship seems mainly to be dictated by the slave, what the slave wants?

Irony............

I think it's more of a matter of finding the right Dom, that LIKE doing the things the slave likes being done to... If that makes any sense... But yea, in some relationship, the slave does quite a bit of power... In some relationships, they dont hold any power at all(almost). Some slaves do stuff they even hate for Master.

Merlin
10-20-2007, 03:09 AM
Does anyone else think that the M/s relationship seems mainly to be dictated by the slave, what the slave wants?Yes...100% agreed.
@strawberry ... "finding the master that does the things a slave wants" thats the point ... even in a relationship where the slave has "little power" the slave has the "power"! Not the Master... as master you are always "forced" to work in the limitations of the slave. (And thats not negative) Everything else would be abuse and a master should never abuse his slave!!!

So i have to say blackmailing someone is a no go!
Blackmailing someone who wants to be blackmailed is no blackmail its role play... just like you can't rape someone who wants to get raped...

TheLittleStrawberry
10-20-2007, 03:20 AM
Yes...100% agreed.
@strawberry ... "finding the master that does the things a slave wants" thats the point ... even in a relationship where the slave has "little power" the slave has the "power"! Not the Master... as master you are always "forced" to work in the limitations of the slave. (And thats not negative) Everything else would be abuse and a master should never abuse his slave!!!

I know people who are in RT serious relationships... In some of them. The slave has NO power at all... But the Dom is responsible enough not to push the slave in the wrong direction.
I mean, how useful would it be to have a slave that's depressed and stuff because he/she is made to do things that.. they just don't like/traumatizes them.
you CAN be in a relationship where the slave has little to no power... Where the slave does things for her/his master, even if they REALLY hate it. As long as they aren't pushed in the wrong way, it's fine.
Also, as I said, the slave will always have a LITTLE power. In a "no" limit relationship.... They slave could always back out from it if it becomes too much... And the Master will have to respect that or else THEN it will be abuse and rape.
but don't worry... There are lots and lots of real life relationships, where the slave lives happily, and obediently with their master.

Merlin
10-20-2007, 03:43 AM
We are basically saying the same...

TrekBoy008
10-20-2007, 09:15 PM
Either way you look at it, they both have about equal power over each other because they are both constrained to perform within the limits of what arouses the other and themselves.

DareMeSilly
05-24-2008, 05:02 PM
i think it sort of depends on if you are doing it recreationally, or hardcore/real life. personally, i hate the idea.


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